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Size of a classed contingent, and its impact on class organization I was thinking that one key factor in helping to answer this question is the number of classed characters in the world, or at least the "known world", for reasons I'll explain below. There was another thread devoted to this...

Eldritch Blast breaks down doors pretty good, and behind locked doors, there's often gold. Just make sure there's someone else in town with similar skills who can take the blame. EDIT: surreptitiously cursing people, and then being on hand to remove the curse might generate cash flow, too...

Borgia may not have been particularly saintly, but he was certainly more priestly than you or I (assuming you're not a priest), because he was ordained, and rose through the church hierarchy. Before he was ordained, he was a university trained lawyer, at a time when university doctors were...

I'm not sure they've been resolved, though they have certainly received a more-or-less full airing. I would add that the poll addressed only the first question, and most people who answered it didn't really voice their reasons or their take on the other questions. Though I would agree that a...

Well, no, it doesn't, but I actually laid out a number of different alternatives in the post I referred to, and the rulebooks, which clearly say class is a profession and then some, and then describe the specific character of each class in some detail, do, too, so when all of that is followed by...

I've heard it said (in certain quarters) that when combat gets boring in this system is when the characters get to 5th level. Because of the multiple attacks per round, combat becomes a slog, kind of like the two previous editions. My group is on the cusp of 4th, so combat tends to be fairly...

I don't know your friend, obviously, but if your friend's calling or vocation isn't an athlete, then it isn't a very illustrative example. And there is nothing that says that 0-level commoners can't go into another line of work - they just don't switch careers with anywhere the same kind of...

This is precisely the point - both Jordan and your friend are athletes, and recognize themselves as such. Quite possibly, your friend looks up to Jordan as an archetypal athlete (and for that reason, buys his shoes). And lots of people could train your friend, but you'd have to be a high-class...

The precedent of past editions of the game is important, and it is important for both sides of the argument, albeit for different reasons. It is important for the "class is real" side because we are able to show a long-term continuity of class being recognized as as real, and argue on this basis...

Just helping you outline what the similar premises are... Except that the rules "clearly have a strong assumption for class in fiction", but give no indication that classes are a mere technical convenience. You're free to insert the last clause into the premise yourself, but not to demand that...

The point of this whole thread is that people start with similar premises, and legitimately end with different conclusions. Or so you've insisted... Alhazred made a point about "class rules simply being a convenience that lets you quickly generate characters that conform to certain...

Here's the thing: sometimes, words actually mean what they say. I don't say, anywhere, that people who choose to interpret class as a set of mechanics are stupid, that they shouldn't disagree with me, or that they only think they're having a great time, when really they're not. I don't say for...

Just because some (or even most) NPCs don't belong to a class, doesn't mean that class is only a PC "thing", that they are unique specimens, as was implied. First, that flies in the face of the term "class", which means that a member is of a certain type, i.e. not sui generis. Second, just...

"NPC supporting characters are easier to play if you limit their class options. Good candidates for supporting characters include a cleric with the Life domain, a fighter with the Champion archetype, a rogue with the Thief archetype, and a wizard specializing in Evocation". (DMG, p.93). So, not...

This is pretty similar to how I think of class, and the vision of it I tried to lay out in this thread. Humors or elements can be impressed into service in conceptualizing archetypes, or the suits in a tarot deck (especially for those of us who have experience with Everway). For me, Weber is...

In this one regard, my position (as a proponent of classes) is actually closer to that of the other side. It's very difficult to know, in a quantifiable way, how often a character "hits". There was a great paragraph in the 1e PHB (or maybe DMG, I can't exactly recall) describing what happens...

Point buy, for balance. But, I insist that they roll hit points with every new level instead of taking the average.

So here is my takeaway from this discussion so far: 1) It's good to have lingering injuries in 5e, because healing is so easy (even for the gritty variants), and combat should have consequences. 2) It's a bad idea to tie lingering injuries to crits, because crits happen so frequently 3) It's...

Levels are a factor of class (because it's class you gain levels in). But despite the fact that I think classes should be concrete to varying extents, I'd have to say no on this one - generally speaking. I'd say level is a translation into the player's language of a much fuzzier power level in...

Ideally, I would like to use the system shock rules, too. But the problem is, if you apply them at 1st level, you'll have PCs going down after taking as little as 3 damage, and that seems too much. I've read somewhere (on this list, perhaps) that some people don't begin using the system shock...