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  1. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    A little better, but still would rather it was innate like Revised Primeval Awareness (or the various other abilities that do basically the same thing, Speech of the Woods, etc).
  2. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    I understand that was probably the logic, I still think it's a reach. And a reach made for a reason I disagree with, I think they should've just kept it at regular Expertise.
  3. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    I personally dislike using Animal Friendship to express a Ranger's affinity for animals, I much prefer that half of Revised's Primeval Awareness. It's not a charm, it's not forced. I'm sure that's not a big deal for some/most players but y'know. I would say that the needle is a bit too skewed...
  4. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    They do. But their first level of Expertise (or first feature that provides Expertise), instead of being two skills, is one skill and two languages. Which is a bit lame and also bizarre.
  5. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    That's what I'm saying, they are on the right lines sometimes, it's not a complete failure. It's just I'd say some stuff comes kinda late or could do more.
  6. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    I'm not saying they shouldn't rely on spells at all, only that some stuff should be part and parcel to the class itself, regardless of how many spell slots they've burnt. Fast movement, overcoming exhaustion and natural conditions, snappy reflexes etc., these are things that I'd put on the...
  7. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    Y'know that thing Jeff Goldblum said in the dinosaur movie? It's like that! (Sure a lot of things technically can be spells but not everything should be. In particular, not everything in a classes loadout should be relegated to spells.)
  8. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    I mean, generally speaking, yeah probably most of those listed. Though some of them I'd take as a given, you probably don't actually need to specify things like the ability to dual wield or use a bow and arrow. And a decent few of those are definitely traits that some of those characters share...
  9. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    Yeah, honestly. I don't even think it'd be that foreign a notion to them, they've had their fingers on that pulse in previous renditions, and even in this one for some of it. Roving genuinely is/was a good start with that logic. They could just do with expanding that general principle, and not...
  10. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    Not untrue, but also they could've just made it flatly non-concentration at the baseline and I wouldn't have even blinked. It is! But the fact that it's another feature that only does something for Hunter's Mark, without being actually a part of the feature that grants Hunter's Mark, irks me...
  11. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    Wouldn't fly on it's own though, they kinda need a damage buff of some sort, and they need it on the levelling table.
  12. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    You're probably right yeah, but I don't think it's particularly necessary. Rogues getting their Expertises first was the protection, I thought. Yeah Bards have to hang on till 10th level to get their 2nd set, but being a Bard for those 10 levels helps. Rangers could fit into that equation...
  13. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    Yeah but they also; Spent 3 additional spaces on the levelling table, including the capstone, making "Hunter's Mark but with some free castings" a very lukewarm better (Like, even if your stance is "those levels are usually blank anyway", they could've at least rolled them in to the base...
  14. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    I dunno! I don't even think it necessarily has to be dramatically different (even though it's not to my personal taste), like even the same general idea but a little stronger could be just fine. And maybe let some stuff arrive together at earlier levels. So they don't have to break formula and...
  15. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    I just think Ranger was what they really could've done with impressing us on, every version has been mediocre to some degree, had very vocal criticism, so it's a bit unfortunate to have gotten to this point and it's just the same old story. Like even if it's functional, I think there was a...
  16. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    I mean. Sure. They probably had those spells there, and then replaced them with the Hunter's Mark gubbins. So yes, I think it seems nominally likely that they probably would have put something there either way, given that they put things at those levels on two out of the two versions of the...
  17. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    It's more that it came up as a result of "what does hunter's mark enforcing concentration prevent you from doing" being asked. Yes, Zephyr Strike in particular could do with a re-write. It's got a fair bit going on and it's a bit weirdly worded/constructed, it doesn't even specify what ends the...
  18. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    Funny you should say; that's yet another aspect of my homebrew tinkerings! I'm in the process of homebrewing a subclass with some themes of a shared creed, and they have an 11th level feature "Esprit de Corps". Once per rest, as a reaction, an ally within range of your senses can roll your...
  19. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    I mean especially if you're committed to only offering minor variations on the same thing each time.
  20. Rocker26a

    D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Ranger"

    But how can we make room for buffs when we have to sacrifice Four class features on the altar of Hunter's Mark??
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