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King I sent you a message through E-mail since I guess the personal messaging is disabled on these forums. Let me know if you have any questions about the content of the E-mail. :cool:

Hey thats what I've been kinda trying to say the whole time (but only I did it more backwards :p ) Perhaps next time I should read a whole thread before jumping right in? eh? :lol:

Must ...not...plug....for...it....is....not....forum......couth... see signature. :p

Then why is it called a Roleplaying game? :confused: :p All like Screwhead says, it all boils down to what you want out of the game. Different strokes for different folks. :)

I thought the argument was that by incorperating wow like mechanics (not boss content) you're promoting the downfall of use of the things that you CAN NOT do in wow. Like, I dunno, cast grease on the floor and have your half-orc (or I prefer oaf ;) ) slide a giant piece of statue at the charging...

An accounter is the group of mobs that are linked together when you pull them, duh. :p

Did you mean hate? If not I'm confused, if so, I'm a little confused but not as much. I actually play wow, currently and I have been for some time, although I'd really rather play table-top, wow does do a few good things. First it lets me play with other people without having to leave my...

Agreed, I gave up on 3.5 stressed to all Hell,for the longest of time I thought I was just a horrible GM, now I realize it's not the case, just my brain was shifted so far into the left side (for all the memorization, and analyzing) that I didn't have enough right side power to do anything else...

Hehe now that it seems like a hybrid of books and software, wouldn't that work now? :p

I think he meant that it's the DM's fault if his own baddies are "boring to run" that it's the DM's job to "show their Big baddie NPCs menacing". Unlike video games, MMOs take a good bit of creativity(even though WOTC is trying ot change that imo), espceially when it comes to GMing. You don't...

Sounds like WoW on crack.

100% agree Blech, no wonder I don't care for 3.xe at all, good observation though. SO good PNP games are there for players to show others how clever they are while playing, and try and think out of the box to overcome obsticles and 3&4e is about showing off how well you can memorize the rules...

Bah, but how many "fireballs" do you have in the old D&D days? I was just refering to how most MMO's spells all do the same thing (damage), just with different graphics. No reason to think any less of any point being made. Plus I've never used a free-form magic system so I can't really...

Made me laugh. "Oh crap, that troll disarmed me, good thing I'm a......crafter!" Pulls out a new sword out of nowhere. "Thanks, 'craft a longsword once per hour ability'" :lol:

Fair enough. I wasn't talking about the MMO, "how much I can deal damage spells", I guess I just got spoiled reading some of my LA books, which include spells that allow you to turn paper thin, and utter a word and be transported back to a rune you etched 15 minutes ago.

So are the mobs in 4E just going to walk around aimlessly while the characters rest up after every fight? Was this already addressed? I mean no matter what you're doing, if you're in a dungeon and you're making noise, I think it's pretty obvious that after an encounter it won't be long till...

Sweet are there notes on how 4E is working to improve these?

I used to play wow, a lot of wow, too much wow, and although I didn't really follow the crowd on the "I have to be the best, and have all the elite gear" I got bored and tired of it. Other than mechanics wow has nothing to offer, and once those are all figured out there's nothing left. Anyway...

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Aren't all 4E characters starting at the playing power of level 4 now anyway, I can't help to wonder if this could be used to eliminate those first 3 "bad mage" levels, without dropping the spells per day thing. I wonder if you'll have to drink to get man..I mean spells in 4e?