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Thanks for the feedback guys :). I'm traveling for the moment, so I have limited access to the internet, but I'll check some replies into the project as soon as I can. Enjoyed the sorcerer writeup - I'm wondering if we can find a way to eliminate energy damage entirely for a martial character...

To anyone who's interested: I've written up another APS for the Martial Wizard. http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-fan-creations-house-rules/257736-aps-another-martial-wizard-gadgeteer.html I'd love to hear your thoughts. (sorry about the double post)

I really like some of these, especially: Primal Bard = Witch Doctor Divine Warlord = Inquisitor (Especially good if you can have a warlord that really presses allies to assault and debufs foes for easy targeting) K-k. some ideas: Arcane: Fighter = Runethane / Runeborn Warrior / Mystic Warrior...

This is my take on the Martial Wizard, inspired by Malcom_N's Alternate Power Source threads. A detailed explanation of the design goals can be found on any of his threads on the subject. Gadgeteer (martial wizard) Magic? Alchemy? Bah, if you look close enough, everything’s just science...

I just put up a post in another forum that used a word meaning 'to chortle maliciously, and part of it got censored. The word was (Minus the . ) sni.gger which came out s:):):):):):). It looks like it detected 'derogatory word for people who naturally have lots of melanin', and screened it...

Chortle, snort, s:):):):):):). And strangely, it's the best attempt at a martial controller i've seen! The scary thing is, you could probably play it... Any plans to grace us with a few more levels?

I think I'll just stick to the APS for now - I already have the basic fluff and some of the class features underway.. still need to figure out the abilities though. I think I'll save an entire class for another time. Plus, we already have the noble thread for that! (depending on how that one...

Ah, the endless circles of etymology... Watch out, or we might start finding meaning in the chaos! :lol: @ Malcom: It's a pleasure *Tips hat

Well, I tend to be more fluffy than crunchy, so I guess that works out :cool: . (that sentence didn't quite come out right... :uhoh: Oh well! B-) )

Mmm, I can taste the flavor already... It seems like we have two separate versions of the class - one being a soloist, and the other with his retinue... I do like the idea of the retinue, and if a way could be found to implement it without slowing the game or adding too much complexity, that...

These descriptions strike me as more of a fayen bard. I'd see primal bard as the 'voice of rain and thunder', or the kind of bard that you'd see existing in a more primitive, primal society. What functions would a bard in this society fulfill? * Keeper of the stories and legends * Facilitating...

Still loving the posts :). Bit of a different path from what I would've taken for this one - Mind if I have a shot at it myself?

"Et in Arcadia ego" - Even in Arcadia, I exist. (the title of a pair of paintings by Nicolas Poussin) The Arcadian does not crusade for paradise in the hereafter, but to create one here and now... Primal Bard is tricky. Voice of the Wild? I'm sure there's a perfect word out there, I just...

Arcadian? Reminds me of Arcadia - The pastoral utipian ideal ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia_(utopia) ) Arcanite sounds more militaristic, Arcadian more 'quest for knowledge'. That's just my subjective interpretation though. Both names work, just in different ways. Divine Scorcorer...

I look forwards to seeing it :)

Fair enough. The one problem that I can see with taking any paragon path of your power source is finding something that dovetails nicely with your class abilities.. not sure how much of a problem or a limitation this would be, but it could definitely be a factor. In some cases, I think a simple...

Fair enough on the psionic power source. Until we have more info on it, it's probably not worth while. That does present a bit of a conundrum... The most obvious explenation would be one using alcemy/fantasy tech. This would probably fit the wizard best - having them hurl various explosive...

I haven't painted any minis for years, but I must admit that this thread has piqued my interest again. I shall be following!

"Krishna - Krishna, Krishna-Krishna, hare krishna, krishna-hare!" Oh-no, Hare Krishnas with swords! Flee!

Awesome :). A whole pdf of APS, with hybrid and multiclass? You just made my day. Any plans on doing some paragon paths?