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Touche ... Mortals who use divine and arcane magic tap the same source as gods. Psionic users would tap an internal mental source tied to sentience and individual awareness. Both would be mortal.

Wizards - are hackers. They know how to hack the "Weave" Warlocks - are told how to hack the "Weave" by their patrons Sorcerers - are prodigies who are born knowing how to hack Clerics - ask their gods to hack the "Weave" for them Druids - know secret back doors into the "Weave" through their...

I see psionics as internal. It is the power of individual sentience. It is a hyperawareness of everything around you and your connection to it. Its manifestation might because of mental rigor and discipline or it might be triggered through contact with the Far Realm, but it is different than...

Gods and mortals tap into the same source. In the Realms the source is the "Weave". Psionics is different.

How you present something is important. If counterspell works against psionics as the default then it is just another "flavor" of magic like arcane or divine and there is not enough reason for it to exist in my mind. Psionics has always been the thing that filled the void when magic was lost...

The question we have to ask ourselves is counterspell going to work against psionics? I think about half this board says yes. The other half says no. I come down on the side of no. In my mind, it has to be something other than magic or what is the point.

I win. I got Tony Vargas and Remathilis to give me xp for this post.

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You can do this for a lot of things. I don't like the Eldritch Knight, but you can use the Paladin as a template for a Swordmage. You substitute the paladin spell list for a very limited arcane list that concentrates on spells that boost melee attacks and improve defenses. Smite becomes arcane...

His point needs to be stressed. I cannot stress it enough. Psionics will be different, if it is treated different even if it shares some mechanical similarities to the "magic" system. If it is treated as separate from magic, it will become it's own thing. Psionics must have it's own...

By trying to place psionics on top of existing classes you are more likely to get broken mechanics. By creating a new class and sub-classes you can balance their power at each level to the power of existing classes. By giving psionic powers to the entire gambit of classes you are more likely to...

A new class with new sub-classes is needed. I think you can build on an existing framework that is familiar but still make it feel different. 1-9 power levels of abilities that scale the same as spells. At the same time you need to make these powers feel different by adding around the edges ...

As a DM, I want feats and psionics to be optional, so that's not a problem.

I agree that Incarnum was too different. There needs to be overlap and points of reference. Psionic powers would still be ranked 1-9 and have level restrictions. The spell point system in the DMG is not necessarily that different than the neo-vancian system that now exists. It just feels...

Mechanically psionic powers have to be different than spells. They should not simply reference a spell description. They need to be called powers even if they are formatted in a similar fashion to spells. They are going to duplicate spell functions in some cases (telepathy and mage hand come to...

I am surprised that people who play a roleplaying game have such a hard time separating fluff from mechanics. How hard is it to create your own gods, warlock pacts, origins of sorcery, or psionic triggers. This is a game predicated on creativity and imagination. There is nothing in the 5e core...

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Meh

I too would like to see psionic powers that mimic the old modes of psychic combat with Id Insinuation, Ego Whip, Mind Blank and Tower of Iron Will ... but they can't be exclusive to psionic users. Perhaps a type of Psychic AC based on wisdom with psionic users being able to attack and do psychic...

Psionic Feats Psionic feats that allow you to gain access to two of the psionic disciplines would be roughly equivalent to cantrips and allow all character classes to potentially have some psionic ability. This gives it the feel of first and second edition while allowing the class...