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Name some. Then we can see who you think are good heroes who kill people over insults. The code of evil violent heroes maybe. Good violent heroes? No.

I don't see certain choices as shutting the campaign down, I see the campaign world reacting in appropriate ways to the choices made by the characters. What would happen in most campaigns if the typical good-aligned PC heroes heard about a band of four evil creatures roaming about killing people...

I think you need to go back and actually look at the concerns the OP voiced. He is worried that the PCs have decided they can act evil with impunity. Pointing out that they are evil, and their classes should reflect that establishes that this is not the type of thing that can be done with...

I think the Paladin of Freedom option would probably just make the problem worse. By shifting the Paladin to a Paladin of Slaughter, you pretty clearly communicate what the players have become. By "compromising" and making an evil character into a Paladin of Freedom, you obscure that point. If...

Perhaps you mean to say "Paladin of Slaughter"? That would seem to fit a band of murdering cutthroats better.

Maybe in your campaigns, but in mine, the PCs are usually just one group among many, and until they are truly high level (say 15th+) they aren't usually strong enough to even consider acting without carefully balancing the consequences.

I just got my June issues of Analog and Asimov's, so those are at the top of my reading list right now. After that, Clarke's Expedition to Earth and Asimov's The Bicentennial Man. In between I'm going through Bruce Coville's Book of Monsters (yes, I do read through all my kids' books before they...

If you think the two are equivalent moral acts, then yes, it probably does. I don't think anyone here is talking about punishing players. The issue is punishing the characters. And I think it is entirely appropriate for characters to suffer consequences for their actions. If they want to...

And apparently you can't distinguish how one should be treated differently than the other. Ah yes, the completely inane argument that "it's all imaginary, so it doesn't matter". If it is all imaginary, why are you bothering posting to a thread in which a poster wanted to know if an action...

Comments that include a justification you made up. Note that the OP didn't say "the arbiter threatened them" he said, "the arbiter asked for his child, wouldn't somehow justify this request, and they attacked and killed him". In other words, they initiated unprovoked violence. Contrary to the...

When all your arguments fail in the face of evidence, walk away. No. It isn't always a good idea. If players want to play in a game in which they get to be murderous thugs without consequence, then paying attention to them is usually a waste of my time. The needs and desires of those sorts of...

Oh, that's a good argument: "I won't look at actual evidence because that might disturb my preconceived notions about a subject. Never mind that the link is to a comprehensive look at the history of dueling and the laws surrounding it put out by the George Washington University Law School...

Umm, yeah. Let's just ignore that you said that who your actions are directed towards doesn't affect the relative morality of these actions, why don't we. Because otherwise your statement would be unimaginably monstrous. I can see why you have a problem discerning "good" and 'evil" if this is...

Maybe one should use it as more than a team jersey then. Perhaps, as the 3e rules suggest, alignment should reflect actions, rather than simply being a label stuck on the character sheet. If a character behaves in an evil manner, then their alignment should reflect that, regardless of whether...

And it wasn't socially acceptable. Burr was afterwards ostracized and his political and public career was finished. How is that congruent with dueling being "socially acceptable". But they didn't dismiss the charges because dueling was okay, they dismissed them for other reasons. Here's the...

Really? Could you show how the alignment guidelines lead one to that conclusion?

I had figured that "might makes right" had pretty much been discarded as a moral guide. I guess I was wrong. You see, what keeps people who are more powerful than others from killing and running rampant is generally morality - those who are "good" don't engage in wanton acts of murder and...

Burr's political career was destroyed by the illegal duel, and he was considered an outcast from society after the duel. yeah, that was considered "good" and "right" at the time. Hmm, Hickock claimed self-defense, after he was arrested and tried for manslaughter. It doesn't sound like his...

No, there was plenty of condemnation of the practice in and of itself. Oh I have. For example: As you can see, the practice was regularly condemned by the Church in the Germanic countries where the practice was culturally rooted, and usually disliked by the rulers, and often formally...

Trial by combat somethimes, but dueling for honor sake pretty much never. In fact, one of the first things missionaries usually did when they set about converting an area was to try to get practices like honor dueling condemned as wrong. And plenty of ecclesiastical texts are out there...