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The trouble with the original article, in my opinion, is that it's saying several different things, and both the author and people responding are treating it as saying one thing: My friend's business died because of RPG players (impossible to assess given the information provided) RPG players...

Because RPG fans make products and give them away for the fun of it, and they're of comparable quality to the products that cost money (in 'game usefulness' if not production values). For example I found this recently. So this hobby is better off than almost any other.

The original article seems to me to come close to saying "the product was fine, there was something wrong with the customers." Which, combined with zero information about the product, doesn't make me very interested in the product or confident in the salesman. It also reminds me of members of...

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Hm..that's weird. Maybe they had trouble with spammers. I'd PM greywulf (see a few posts up).

There's more frequent discussion at forum.microlite20.net

:D Thanks.

Maybe the idea quoted below would work better in a game where the characters were people from our world transported to a fantasy world.

Do you prefer people to comment in this thread, or in the forums on your site?

Also, there's already at least two cut-down Dungeons & Dragons which only use d6s (Tunnels & Trolls and Forward...to Adventure!).

If you used 1d6 x 3 you wouldn't have to change any of the DCs or other factors, but the chance of very good or very bad results would be much higher (the opposite effect to using 2 or 3d6). EDIT: It's only higher if you count a 1 as a critical miss and a 6 as a critical failure. Obviously you...

Are you going to make a Microlite version of 4th edition?

I think if I end up using Microlite20 I'll do saves based on how they work in d20, just because that's likely to be reasonably balanced.

I agree that if you filled in every situation it'd be d20 again :) , but in this case, different interpretations could make an enormous difference in the power of wizards. Especially in situations where both caster and target are likely to make their roll. If there's no official answer then...

My question was more how you work out whether it needs an attack roll and/or offers a save. So you're saying there's no way of doing that other than referring to the main d20 rules?

Soooo.... can anyone give me an answer to my question? Basically I'm wanting to know how saves vs magic work.

It looks like you have two systems for magical attacks: One is in Combat: caster rolls d20 + Caster's Level + MIND bonus, DC is the target's AC. The other is in Spells: the target rolls d20 + their Level + their MIND bonus, DC is 10 + Caster's Level + Caster's MIND bonus. My question is how...

a question about spells. The first page says that "the Difficulty Class (DC) for all spells is 10 + Caster Level + Caster's MIND Bonus" But I can't find i) rules for when the targets of spells get to save - is it meant to be for all spells? ii) how to work out the bonus for someone who is...

Hi, Just for fun, I've put the rules for a retro-clone game on my website. European gamers in particular may find it familiar. It's at www.apolitical.info/webgame/eye

Thanks!