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  1. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    You won't get to the bottom of that barrel. Any reasons you are given will be nothing more than rationalizations for a much deeper, closely-held belief system that I very much doubt he will openly admit to embracing here. But come on. It isn't exactly a puzzle.
  2. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    So homosexuality doesn't bother you?
  3. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    That ship sailed twenty pages ago, man.
  4. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    That's because it isn't about him feeling uncomfortable roleplaying as a certain demographic. It's about something much, much larger and more fundamental to his worldview. And that same fundamental facet of his person is the real reason behind his opposition to anything that proactively...
  5. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Disagreeing with someone doesn't make them a troll. Someone repeating your own words back in a way that suddenly no longer sounds flattering doesn't make them a troll. You can make up whatever excuse you want for avoiding answering the hard questions you're being asked. Hopefully you're honest...
  6. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Why do you sound like you're filling out a compliance form every time someone doesn't handle your words with the feather-soft care you feel they deserve? "Discussion terminated"? Please.
  7. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    This isn't a bridge. This is a social construct. If there's a problem with something in the future, it can be addressed. It doesn't need to be flawless. The perfect is the enemy of the good. Regardless, at this point I don't think many of us are expecting you to help build anything. I think...
  8. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Seriously? Even a small fraction of 3000 incidents of harassment is a problem. And why would any of them go through the trouble of making up harassment? Come on, man.
  9. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I think we all know it runs a little deeper than that, now. It's not the author's fault that you didn't quite get the point. I'm white and male, and you don't see me assuming that he believes I'm a terrorist. So why do you believe he means you? Which we know isn't an issue, and if it becomes...
  10. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Yep. The real problem is something else entirely: he finds "alternative lifestyles" personally unsettling and doesn't want anything to do with anything that mentions them, and certainly doesn't want to support any company that supports those "alternative lifestyles". It isn't about the work, or...
  11. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    You absolutely are! But it leaves the rest of us wondering if your preferences (which I'm sure none of us saw coming) are perhaps the actual driving force behind your staunch opposition to the notion that claims from women and minorities of harassment in the gaming community should be taken more...
  12. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    You find transgender people and people with non-hetero sexualities "unsettling on a personal level" and are literally incapable of pretending to be one such person? But roleplaying actual murderous villains is something you feel perfectly at home doing? And presumably you've roleplayed women...
  13. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I quoted you as saying it. You claimed that game systems are now insisting that their players adopt alternative lifestyles. I'm asking you to name one, and show us that insistence.
  14. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Are you able to name literally one major modern game system that insists that you personally adopt an "alternative lifestyle" to play? I'd wager not.
  15. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Wow. I did not expect to wake up to find that the people intent on preventing anything being done about this had actually revealed themselves to be even more radicalized than before. At this point, I'm comfortable stating that if I heard statements along these lines at any event I managed or...
  16. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    What you're conveniently leaving out is that the real problem was a gross miscarriage of actual justice by a rogue prosecutor who railroaded an investigation, lied about findings, and was eventually disbarred for his behavior. There's no question that the case sucked for the falsely accused, but...
  17. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    A number of cons have this policy on paper. Every PAX convention, for example, has a zero-tolerance harassment policy. Being reported for harassment triggers a remediation process which includes removal, revocation of badge, and permaban from future PAX events. In reality, of course, there is...
  18. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    So, do you not understand the Duke lacrosse case? Or are you deliberately mischaracterizing it to try and support your personal narrative of choice? Because that case really, really doesn't say the things you want it to say.
  19. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    No, it isn't. You have to take an incredibly warped view of reality to arrive at that belief. That's exactly right. No one is being punished, so arriving at a determination of guilt is unimportant. It's about defusing the situation, that's all. Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. The...
  20. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    NO. Full stop. This isn't about "The accusation is the evidence," because this isn't about evidence at all, and you need to stop acting like it is. Evidence is used to pass judgment, and no one is in a position to pass judgment, here. This is about resolving an immediate problem. The evidence...
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