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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    It certainly is effective in my opinion, it is simply common sense that if a man knows something and refuses to reveal it and this information is vital to the security of the lives of the citizens of your country then if he refuses to reveal it willingly then the only option is to force him to...
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    To say that torture itself is evil is kind of like saying that to kill another person in self-defense who is trying to kill you is evil because it's murder therefore man shouldn't defend himself. The possibility of obtaining information which can save the child's life certainly does justify it...
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    Right, but the difference is not between LG and CG. I am saying that a paladin who allows his child to die to avoid engaging in torture and any group that considers this torture to be evil is evil and immoral. I do not consider this conflict to be between LG and CG, but a paladin by refusing to...
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    To torture an evil person for information to save your child's life is evil to you and you feel that the paladin should give up his titles? You would think of yourself as evil after having tortured an evil person for information to be able to save your child's life? I doubt anyone would be...
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    'Tis the season

    I have a number of pagan holidays based on greek mythology. I also have an indian holiday called Holi. (look it up on Google.) Generally my holidays are harvest-related or moon-related.
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    As far as how a paladin who is opposed to torture is evil, the argument is this: Your child will die unless you get certain information from this man who has kidnapped your child and the man refuses to give you this information. And let's say that you have only 2 days before your child is...
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    A blending of Diablo and Dnd.

    I received the Diablo 2: Diablerie and I thought I post my opinion of the book here. The book is divided into 6 chapters. Character Creation, Equipment, Spells, Magic Items, Monsters and a small sample adventure. Chapter 1 made a few changes to how the characters are made which in my opinion...
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    Usually in most conflicts I run, both sides consider themselves good, now the question becomes how do you know who is good and who is evil? There is an objective standard no question. I usually make it so that while both sides consider themselves good, one side is evil just doesn't consider...
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    I have actually an example of this where one side's perception of the facts leads them to believe that what they are doing is right. I was recently watching a movie The Pillars of the Earth where a good and honest monk betrays a conspiracy by members of the aristocracy and the daughter of the...
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    That definitely deserves xp jonesy.
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    Quote from FR supplement Lords of Darkness on the Twisted Rune (pg. 177) "The Rune has even been known to hire good adventurers to further their plans, never revealing the ultimate source of their funds." This leads to an interesting scenario where a good man fights for an evil cause, finds out...
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    Is such a thing possible? Since usually the good gods of D&D are allied. (such as Helm, Tyr, Ilmater etc. from FR. Usually I thought it would be one side which mistakenly believes itself to be good but which is in fact evil.)
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    Let me clarify the yes. When I said yes, I was posting my view, but the thread I was posting was not a question although it certainly could be taken as starting a discussion. Of course a discussion about two forces in conflict with one another both believing themselves to be good in a D&D game.
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    I will gladly delete my post if a moderator feels that I should do so, otherwise my post stands.
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    It is not a discussion of real-world forces in conflict with one another. This was a post to show that such conflicts are possible in the real world and therefore possible in a D&D campaign. I was simply providing real-world examples. I listed a number of ideas which people may think to...
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    Can two forces be in conflict, both believing themselves to be good?

    This post is a discussion about two forces which are in conflict both believing themselves to have the moral high ground in a D&D campaign. I thought this thread could both be an opportunity for discussing this topic and allow brain-storming. Sorry for the real world references previously, was...
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    Question about spellbook construction/destruction

    There is a section on spellbooks in Magic of Faerun. It has information on how to construct and protect a spellbook. Nothing happens to anyone attempting to destroy a spellbook unless it has been previously trapped.
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    Gunpowder, fantasy and you

    A few things, first, I am generally opposed to having gods and angels in my game, (although I am not opposed to demons and devils.) because good always seems to have an edge over evil in D&D (compare solar to balor.) and because gods and angels do tend to become oppressive. If gods and angels...
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    Cleric Purify Food and Water Vs Seawater question

    That is acting dumb. To "purify" a human being would be an evil act. Does this spell have the evil discriptor? And also, I think a spell designed to "purify" a human being would occupy a higher level than second and would probably be a necromancy spell. In fact we have such a spell, it's called...
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    Cleric Purify Food and Water Vs Seawater question

    Yes, but no one would design a spell to "purify" a human being because it was 80% water, but a sailor at sea would design an all-purpose spell to purify food and water including saltwater. That is not the intent of the spell. RAI. They shouldn't have to mention saltwater, you should have enough...
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