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She has a card, but it is not indestructible, nor does it recur, I was basing my statement on the flavor text of several cards, and what has been said in the novels. She can be killed, she just comes back after a while, sort of like a ghost that cannot be laid to rest. Some say she is an avatar...

As do I.

Why not simply give it the dragon standard? i.e. Triple standard

Sounds logical to me. Anyone have any ideas on natural armor, I was thinking +3, what do y'all think?

Nothing to add, looks good so far.

As you wish.

I'll post the Xajexe later this week, but I'll have to update the Kisin to 3,5 before I can post that one.

That's just because they've never faced me. *evil grin*

I was thinking the same, infact, I would add something like this: Spells: A vulpinal cast spells as a 4th level wizard gaining bonus spells for its high intelligence score. For each racial HD that the vulpinal advances by, its effective wizard level increases by 1. Thus a 12HD vulpinal would...

LE will win again. Because LE pwns. :D

*Glee* Now this is what I'm talking about, a community effort like in the old days :p So, does everyone agree with the last proposed ability scores and the 4d8 HD? The skill selection is excellent btw, Gez. Very well thought out.

And now, the metallic sliver. ---------- Sliver, Metallic Medium Construct (Extraplanar, Sliver) Hit Dice: 1d10+20 (25 hp) Initiative: +1 Speed: 30’, Climb 30’, Armor Class: 17 (+1 Dex, +6 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 16, Base Attack/Grapple: +0/+6 (+4 grapple bonus) Attack: Claw +2 melee...

Not what, whom. It's a legendary vampire from Mirage. There is only one, and she is unkillable. Kaervek tried and failed, the keldons tried and failed, the phyrexians tried and failed, even Yawgmoth himself tried and failed. You can not kill her, for she will exist for as long as the prime...

Good point, I'll go add it.

The Leonal is in the revised monster manual. Of the others, I am most inclinded to do the leopard/snow leopard, but we decide on the second guardinal later. Shade: O.K. Just wondering. personally, since they are spellcasters I would reduce the strength more, say to 15 or so, perhaps increasing...

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

Find the land of nothing and you'll find out ;) There you will also sometimes find the elusive and dangerous nutkin.

I am fully aware of that, but this thread is for the creation of *new* guardinals, not updating the old ones. Shade: I agree with the size, but why the high physical stats?

Thread started. :D

As I said in another guardinal thread, wouldn't it be fun to make new guardinals as a community effort. I.e. anyone can join in the creation of the guardinals. We'll start with something simple, the Vulpinal, or Fox Guardinal. Basically a humanoid fox that cast spells as a wizard. Let's start...