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And I linked you this: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...-10-Like-a-Pro There is a reason GWM is recommended for PAM V-Pally everywhere even in this guide right here where we are chatting.

Not only that but Haste is not only just extra attack, but also +2 AC, Advantage on Dex saves (many damage spells/cone attacks/breath etc.) and 60 feet movement speed. I think FrogReaver highly underestimate all those benefits in fight. And also as I said- in typical real-life gameplay at table...

You are correct with Bless, that is my mistake. We made houserule for it to be bonus action and I had it for so long I totally missed that. I stand corrected. But you can check my posts above about GWM vs non-GWM chance to hit. And I also listed a thread which shows you how to calculate GWM AC...

I won't go in into full math here but for the sake of argument let's say that even with VoE you miss 50% of time. No, you won't miss that often, I know, but let's say you will: Quaterstaff/Spear + Shield (if you don't know Spear in errate was brought to PAM list) : Average 59 per turn. Glaive...

EDIT: I stand corrected about Bless. My apologize for my mistake. However it still doesn't change my mind that Damage Later is better if you have harder encounters and they don't end in 1-2 turns. Rule of Thumb: the more turns fight last- the more GWM will outperform non-GWM PAM build on...

I disagreee. I don't see a reason for Half-Elf to take PAM without GWM. That is totally useless. He will do extra 1k4 + 5 + 1k8 without GWM. That is on average extra 9,5 dmg without smite. With Duelist and using one-handed sword with 3 attack he willl deal extra +2 per attack so +6. Meaning on...

Lance doesn't work with GWM as it doesn't have "Heavy" property. It works with PAM though as it has "Reach".

Just to clarify: for Variant Human you want to use STR, not CHA because you don't have enough bonus as Half Elf and good feat that can give +1 and give something beneficial (like Elven Accuracy). So for Variant Human DPR PAM build- 1 level of Hexblade is only taken for: Curse, Shield spell, 2...

I admit and stand corrected at +1 CHA. Res Con is mandatory on Vengeance Paladin because losing Haste makes you sitting duck and you dont want to lose slots to recast buffs because that is smite lost and Action economy lost. So assuming +1 Cha from accuracy we still need res con so 8-9 level and...

Disagree hard. Variant Human is better optimization-wise. Even if we talk crits. Half-Elf is only best for Vengeance Paladin/Hexblade (best 1 level, not two in both cases/races) if he uses Sword and Board because he is very stretched in ASI. But that is not maximum damage Paladin. Vuman is...