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    D&D 4E The "We Can't Roleplay" in 4E Argument

    Who said that? I think that is a strawman, but I would be interested in being proven wrong. AFAIK, some people claimed greater difficulty, not impossibility, and that is a reasonable thing to claim. Just as, for example, AbdulAlhazred might have had greater difficulty role-playing a...
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    D&D 4E The "We Can't Roleplay" in 4E Argument

    Playing the character is role-playing. Character concept, in the way you used it in the post I was responding to, was about concept of character prior to creation. Restrictions on what a character can be at that point are utterly seperated from role-playing a character once established. Sorry...
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    Should this be fixed

    Yup. Our persepectives definitely diverge here. If I want to write a story, I'll write a story. If I want to play a role-playing game, my goal (if a player) is to take on the role of a character within the fantasy milieu; it is never "to write a story". My goal as a GM is to enable the same...
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    D&D 4E The "We Can't Roleplay" in 4E Argument

    I would argue that character concept and role-playing are entirely different things. I would assume that you wouldn't argue that 4e was less of a role-playing game when just the PHB was released (because of fewer options than now)? I would assume that you wouldn't argue that Top Secret was...
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    D&D 4E The "We Can't Roleplay" in 4E Argument

    I am not sure that anyone says "impossible"; but some do say "not as naturally" or "rules structure impedes role-playing." I agree that "impossible to role-play" is a relatively worthless discussion as (1) it is manifestly wrong, and (2) AFAICT, no one holds that position.......or, if someone...
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    D&D 4E The "We Can't Roleplay" in 4E Argument

    Good hypothesis. http://www.enworld.org/forum/5570959-post163.html I put it "The less rules intrude on the fiction, the more the game supports role-playing." RC
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    Let's write some riddles!

    How inexcusably slow of me to not realize sooner that this is a queen bee in a hive. Very nicely done! Reminds me of something I read in a very old, 1st edition book by a gentleman names S. Holmes, from the Sussex Downs. RC
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    Should this be fixed

    Consequence is a natural part of story. If the characters in a story have control over all of the consequences, there is no tension, and hence no story. I can think of no stories in which this is not the case. Can you think of any? Story arises out of context, action, and consequence. "The...
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    Raven Crowking's Nest

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    Should this be fixed

    It has occurred to me that this discussion is related to the "PC death" discussion. The real question, AFAICT, is "Should the GM have impossed the consequences that destroying the treasure also therefore removes its monetary value?" This would seem to me to be a pretty obvious, and natural...
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    Let's write some riddles!

    It may not be what you intended, but if I was using this as a clue, I might have it refer to a yellow musk creeper growing out of a skull.
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    Should this be fixed

    That's an interesting question, but I am not sure that it is relevant to what happened in the OP, or how a "Wisdom Check" is used in general. But, at least here, I can see what you're trying to get at.....even if I do not agree. Yes, lots of folks play games where the metagame is entwined with...
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    Specific person issue

    Thanks for thinking about me! :lol: RC
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    Should this be fixed

    :confused: No. Playing without your pants on upsets the other players. What you do, in game, with your character, in game, upsets the other players through the medium of upsetting their characters. :erm: No. The Wisdom check, as a response to this sort of situation, is an attempt to...
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    Let's write some riddles!

    I don't know if it would be easy for anyone else; I live in Canada.
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    Let's write some riddles!

    Maple tree
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    Should this be fixed

    I agree. And it isn't wrongbadfun, but it does seem to me rather weak sauce.
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    Let's write some riddles!

    Simile and Metaphor. RC
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    Raven Crowking's Nest

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