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Imaro I think that question kinda misses the point. I'm sure that there's a point where it'd be better to just run a different game. As a matter of fact, I'm personally past that point myself. But I think the game's tolerance for possible changes is greater than you think, evidently. Perhaps...

That doesn't follow. It's possible to like something but dislike aspects of it. I like pizza, but I don't like olives. If I get pizza with olives on it, I'll pick 'em off. Those olives don't necessarily ruin the pizza for me. But if I have a say in the ordering of a pizza, I'll try to get it...

Just because D&D has historically had these doesn't mean it has to have them every time to be still be D&D. It's not like we're trying to replicate some platonically ideal version of D&D that existed in the past. If there were such a game, we'd all be playing that instead of arguing over...

EDIT: I'm slow. Haffrung As one of those "theorists," I'd like to point out that whether casual players care about a design is irrelevant. They won't notice, because they don't care, while someone that does care is still getting what they want. Being mechanically coherent and mathematically...

Wasn't there something recently about Ice-T flipping on his agent because he was scheduled to narrate an R. A. Salvatore audiobook and totally did not get it?

How does that lead to actual discussion though? That just seems like a setup for a bunch of drive-by "I feel this way" posts. That's what I mean by "useful." I'm pretty certain that's not an unreasonable tack to take on a discussion forum, even if we are just shooting the :):):):). I certainly...

Right. But the post I was quoting was about how even the Slayer would be complex to teach, so how late in the cycle the Slayer came is totally irrelevant. EDIT: Though I suppose it could explain why my player didn't "get" 4e the first time he tried it. I think that's a stretch, though. The only...

Not to speak for Pemerton, but I think the point is, ultimately, wouldn't that make this thread /massively/ preemptive? I mean, if how we judge a game's success is how well it's doing down the road, shouldn't we wait until we're actually down the road before declaring it a success? And I think...

It's anecdotal, but I recently introduced a player to 4e using a slayer, and it went a lot smoother than your argument would imply. Now, he had played 2e and 3e before, so that might have made him more receptive to some of the concepts, but this thread has posited that as an impediment to...

I'm not even sure it can be called a success - almost everything I've read has been lukewarm. Along the lines of "this is alright, but I prefer X," where X is 4e, of PF, or Savage Worlds, or Fate, or Something-Else-I-Found-In-The-Last-Two-And-A-Half-Years. Ditto in my game shop. I concede that...

I guess I can get behind that. Still, in the games I'm most familiar with that have Succeed At Cost - Fate Core and Dungeon World - it's presented as a means to foster player agency as opposed to a way to prevent traffic jams. I suppose it boils down to the context in which you use it, though...

Failing forward isn't about preventing the players/characters from failing. It's about preventing the narrative from stagnating as play locks up around something intractable. I read something recently - I /think/ it was an excerpt from a 5e example of play - where a failed climb roll resulted...

That could very possibly be observational bias - older games seemed harder to you because, when you first ran into them, you were less skilled than you are now. And if it's not that, it could be because of the growth in popularity of games of that type - you see more dumber games just because...

5e feels to me like more of the same sort of stuff I already passed up years ago. Not that that's objectively bad, just that it doesn't scratch the itch for me anymore. 4e's at a weird spot for me. It's by far my preferred D&D edition, and I've finally found a group that enjoys it for what it...

I feel I should note that, for simple misspellings or page references, I just highlighted the entry. I hop that doesn't throw a wrench into things on your end.

I have this problem too, and it shows up on both my iPad and my (small) laptop. That makes me think it's probably a CSS issue, though I haven't really done any digging to find out. My gut reaction when I first saw it was that the news sidebar was somehow involved. Dang, now I'm curious. Time to...

Just a few minor spelling and grammar errors, nothing horrid. Way I figure it, the state of the shipped EPG shouldn't have a bearing on the hardcover unless we're talking substantive mechanical changes, and we aren't.

I made sure to hit the appendices that related directly to #3, at least. The non-adventure-specific entries might be worth pointing someone at, though.

Mort, are you also editing the Player's Guide section? I noticed a couple errors in there on a cursory readthrough, but it doesn't look like anyone's assigned that section.

I could. I see you already plan to post it to the KS site. I recommend doing that, and having something like a Google document for making notes about errata et al. The Fate Core Kickstarter made that a standard practice, and it really helped get a bunch of eyes to the documents for...