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Again, Crusader Maneuvers, and stances, You've seen the stuff Devoted Spirit gives right?. and Goad would be pretty good to stop people getting near anyways, and that's pretty good actually.

Wait Dex-based?, never said anything about being dex based, and the crossbow just in case I run out of mana or the setting is not long enough for lvling up the sorcerer class. I pretty much said a Tank that is able to use shields even better than average and that is able to fight back ranged...

....What? that's pretty odd, it seems more like Dando said, a edition error, I mean, it just states it gives the Two-Weapon Fighting when using a Shield, so, at least I think, people would more commonly assume it as it gives the TWF regardless of Dex 15 or not.

Wait, it actually has to say that it works without the Dex 15 to work without it?, I mean it says it just gives that it's easier to assume you don't need it, dunno.

Why doesn't it work? It says it applies only when wielding shields, it's not necesarily TWF, don't see what's wrong with it.

Um...I said I was getting a meteor hammer too for reach after you mentioned the reach problem earlier. as far I know, Spiked chain is exotic too, so would have to take it anyways. Still thinking about that yet, for long campaigns would get force missile mage, for short ones I would be...

There's several in Devoted Spirit stance, like Iron Guard's Glare, Shield Block, Defencive Rebuke, Thicket of blades and Shield Counter. and Extra Grant Maneuver feat. Planned of actually using the spells from a distance. That one seems better, thanks :)

Crusader maneuvers When not wielding them? Still Spell?

I actually was searching for tank builds, but most people were like "tanks suck be a nuker", and since I really hate not being a tank (I'm a specialist, acording to Robin Laws), I seached around for classes and came up with the Crusader/Sorcerer build with the Shieldmaster PrC so tanking would...

So it's a damage nullifier that works depending on the attack? makes sense now, thanks you! :D Was thinking on giving a minimum of 18 Con and Cha for more Hp, crusader saves and Sorcerer spells per day; but it would leave me low on the other one's, is there a way of raising ability scores...

So you mean it's a "get hit or not" stat? that's pretty much what I meant with it being "invulnerability" Sorry, never ever gonna happen, I love tanking so much I even able to tank in a freaking space combat simulator. Gonna check them out, thanks :)

Um... never mentioned Aggro or anything, just mentioned the Crusader Class, as it has maneuvers and skills that force the enemy on him And played both Prot Warrior in WOW BC and Paladin in Lineage 2. Wait, so AC isn't damage reduction but invulnerability?, I though it was simple...

Don't know I mean sorcerers, they don't need to prepare spells so it's the most mana-like caster, aside from psions.

then just mettle, anyways, already knew about how mages are overpowered here. Bullrush, charge, whatever, why wouldn't it anyways? Spells divided by level.

On me? Greater Reflection shield and mettle, on someone else?, either bull rush the mage then slaughter him or use the Emergency Ranged Weapon, like a repeating crossbow. Also, I've seen around Crusaders are great for making gishes, especially Sorcerer, I think it is mana based but more Final...

Magic Enhancements? Energy Warding?

Haven't seen much about spiked chain or meteor hammer, gonna have to check them out in case of another weapon, though all I'm actually searching is as much tanking ability and AC as possible, for both solo (Leeroy Jenkins) and party tanking. I mean Total cover in case of Arrows and stuff, but...

Wouldn't they need a reach weapon for that?, like a spear or something? haven't seen anywhere about two-handed weapons having reach. I've only seen they have the same range as one-handed. And if they have reach, wouldn't just Charging or bull rush "stun" them? if I'm allowed Shieldmaster, even...

Just saying about the Shieldmaster since shields here don't block, so I though it would give fairness to it, and to make them worth for playing in high levels with having to sacrifice defence for attack, I love tanking. I hate two-handed, it turns fighters into glass cannons, I've always been...

Hi, I'm new and came from playing MMORPGs always as Tank, and don't know which class would've best for tanking Seen around people saying the Crusader was the best Tank, but been browsing around and found this PrC, it has no discussion so couldn't see if people liked it or no. So, though...