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It's still too early to tell. Even making a distinction between Intimidate and Diplomacy is incorrect when talking about SWSE, since the game combines them into Persuasion. And we've got no idea what is or isn't going into the class skill list for Wizards yet; for all we know, they might even...

Well, don't forget ability mods. If the grumpy dwarf has the low Charisma to go with his disposition, that's gonna erode his untrained skill bonus. Also note: SWSE doesn't have Diplomacy of Intimidate skills, rolling both into Persuasion. If D&D4e does something similar, you could simply use...

Considering the quality of discourse you've offered here, I eagerly await being ignored.

So, if the cliff doesn't definitely force the party to wait, it's not relevant to the game?

I think you're overestimating the effect of having that +1/2 level to all skills; it doesn't turn every skill check into an autosuccess, it just reduces the number of skill checks that are autofail (or close enough to it as to make no difference). In other words, the mage won't be springing up...

Not knowing how they plan on implementing this idea in 4e, I'll just throw in that I've been running a SWSE game with 1st level PCs, and it's been great. Even with triple HP, there's still a distinct sense of danger in the combat, but now the PCs can get roughed up quite a bit and still win the...

I, for one, hope they bring the SWSE system over pretty much as-is. I'd love a bit of pulpy omnicompetence in my high level D&D characters, and I think the "Trained-only uses" mechanic is an excellent way to make distinctions between the experienced barbarian who's seen a lot of magic cast and...

I was under the impression that C&C didn't actually have skills, but rather Prime and non-Prime stats.

Thing is, soldiers and Jedi aren't fighters, scoundrels and nobles aren't rogues, and SWSE isn't D&D (3.5 or 4). You've got to take a look at the system in its totality, and from what I've seen (including some actual play) it really does balance out over the long run. If 4e does take Saga's...

Noble, actually, though I otherwise agree entirely. :) There are a lot of ways to be very skillful in SWSE without spending feats. Intelligence of 14? That's two extra trained skills. Human? One extra, right there. And, of course, you still get your ability mod + 1/2 your level on your...

Well, the skill system is just one thing that's changed. In SWSE, PCs get triple HP at first level, so taking a class with a high hit die first has a big impact. Secondly, rather than just handing out "proficient with all martial weapons" and the like, characters get a set of bonus feats from...

I think it's pretty clear which literary character they're trying to evoke with the tiefling.

Enforcer, I think you're misreading that sample Dany chapter. It's not that one of the dragons has died; it's that one of the dragons has eaten a child.

Not as much as having the boards over there back up does, but the effort is appreciated. :)

Who knows? This is starting to get really frustrating, though. I NEED MY FIX!!!

Really? It just makes me all giggly. ;)

*blinks, and casts gaze about blearily* Where am I? This place looks familiar... Do you talk about... about role-playing games here? :)

No, it doesn't, but it's not surprising that you think it does.

My Shadowrun character hated Elves, and always called them "pointers". It sounded much better with the Irish accent, though. :)

Thanks!