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I am speaking ONLY for myself. When bruce Lee uses come and get it by Motioning to the 10 or so guys surrounding him, smirking at them and quirking his eyebrow my suspension of disbelief is not triggered because I'm thinking Man that guy is bad ass. Rule of cool wins out. Wouldn't matter if...

If by "best by far" you meant horribly broken and utterly anathema to the way I want to play and by "tweaking" you meant should be doused in kerosene and set on fire then I must say I have to agree with you :D I know that a lot of folks love the 3e mutliclassing system but I hate it with a passion

Strangely enough with your list that was pretty much exactly what I thought you were doing -straining out on minor details. Except where you talked about things that I agree were different and clearly superior in 4e.

1) Well there were a few classes that got multiple attacks based on level- to be honest I preferred the fact that multiple attacks could be done in 4e based on specific powers as your character levelled up. 2) Yeah hated ability score damage and it's ilk in pre 4e. Good riddance. If you need...

That's ok I am often with you until you start with the "it's not really dnd" when referring to 4e. As for pathfinder bringing in as many folks as 4e - if true I think they are doing so in spite of their rules system (mechanics) rather than because of it. Yup we are all giving our opinions and...

I'd be willing to discuss what I see as the strengths of the various editions and I am willing to be courteous and polite so long as others refrain from making inaccurate claims and attacks themselves (such as claiming that something is the TRUE dnd or something else is not REALLY dnd)...

I said something about grognards ignoring those who haven't played dnd. What I see requested, desired by many of them is nothing more than broken old mechanics that make no sense for no other reason than traditions sake because these things "feel" like DnD. While I'm glad your nephews and...

The majority of DnD grognards perhaps but if DnD next focuses on bringing them around and ignores the folks who have not played DnD then the game will stagnate which may be great for you but in the long term is bad for dnd. I've spoken to folks I've tried to bring into DnD and the response has...

I have seen both being angry at the diminished scope of wizards (which I have mild empathy for but only mild because there are those who refuse to admit that the wizard needed to be reined in at all) and those who are angry because they no longer felt "special" because now fighters had cool...

I'll show you one HUGE example of where the 4e books differ from previous editions. The PHB's in 4e give equal time for non-caster classes as it did for the casters and that ticks the casters off because they no longer get to be the only ones with cool toys to play with. I don't call them...

I agree having a decent starting adventure will be important (UNLIKE 4e had at the start) but I think when you ask what folks think is most important thats not gonna rank up there as high as some other things. For me I want a balanced game that is simpler and faster than 4e but gives better...

I would much rather have the "Leader" role than the "Healbot" role which too often was seen prior to 4e and has already reared it's ugly head in 5e. So far there has already been Healbots, tanks, skillmonkeys and strikers shown (pelor cleric, moradin cleric, rogue, fighter) so to say there...

necrothread is necro

I like the idea of PC's having different resources to use that are not on either the at will or long rest recharge list. Having these types of resources (call them something other than encounter powers if you want) does several good things in my opinion. They provide somewhat more powerful...

Just what we need a bunch of radical Teaparty Paladins

OMG WOTC saved a burning orphanage full of kids- they are so terrible. Everyone knows those orphanages are really full of mindcontrolling vampires. It's the oldest trick in the book.

Strangely I have just the opposite reaction - it seems that they are bringing in concepts from previous editions that I had hoped had been staked and decapitated. Much prefer Vancian casting godcasters would be finally laid to rest but maybe they will have found a decent way to balance them...

Nope - the campaigns I play in exclude dragon feats etc - makes life simpler for the dm and while it disappoints me sometimes to miss a cool feat/power, magic item the material from dragon should not be required to make an effective character.

1) I have never expected to take all the hits on any of my defenders I have played - I'm not sure where you got that idea. 2) I do not compare my 18th level paladin to my 7th/8th lvl swordmage. I compare how effective my swordmage is to how effective my paladin was. 3) Dimensional vortex has...

But it's not just the hospitalidins mark that I find makes my SM envious/feel underwhelming. The Fighter (sword and board or pole-arm either one) and the warden as well both seem far superior to the SM (haven't even looked hard at the psionic defender). To me the swordmage is at best 4th among...