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I think the big point of contention is that it's a big mechanical consequence to a role-playing action. The character is now "not playable" until the DM decides penance is made. I would say it would be better to either have a "fallen cleric" archetype or have the character be favored by a god...

It's a man you tack on the wall. Some kind of living framed picture.

Guys, we have to realise: Those toxic X aren't all that present. They correspond to what? 2% of the gamers you have encountered? We are defending the game we love against hypothetical gamers we don't have at our table and won't tolerate anyway. Most of your are older gamers, you have a well...

I'm really 35 (well still 34, but sooooon) and I sometime feel a terrible disconnect with man posters, it's like we don't even speak the same language (which we don't, I speak French, but you get the idea)

Sure. Those consequences are natural because they fit the narrative created by the DM. Say in my game the powers are given to the cleric through secret prayers and rite. Once they know and understand the "rites of casting 2nd level spells", you can't remove it (unless you destroy their memory...

Yup. It's just an mechanical justification to their power trip. "Plays YOUR character in a manners that fits MY preferences".

Some posters should really be ashamed of their attitude. If Enworld really skew toward older gamers, some of them clearly wasted their time and never learned social abilities.

It's funny, hardline DMs want players beholden and answering to those almighty figures able to punish both in-narrative and the mechanics and those power figures are all played by...said DM! No ways the player has any say in this, that would be toxic bullying! Surprise, surprise.

Basic Rules and the page number? Id guess.

IIRC, it's full HDs in 2024. I'll confirm when I have the time.

This is my 3 Fs rule: Fudge For Fun That applies for both DMs and Players.

Oh, forgot one: Spare the Dying or a DC 15 medicine check gives a successful death save, not automatic stabilization.

Hey, you know the cliché grognard rant about kids these days and their blue tieflings? Well...between that cover and the latest PHB...I think its becoming a real thing. The delusions of basement troglodytes are becoming real!

Starts at DC 20 for wretched, then 15 for squalid, 12 for poor, 7 modest, 5 comfortable, Aristocratic and rich are auto-sucesses.

Character only regain half their HD after a long rest. Require HD spending to regain HP for a long rest. Require 1 use of Healers kit to spend HDs Require a Con check at the end of a long rest to see if the characters benefit from it. DC depends on the environment or lifestyle. PC can't benefit...

It's based on D&D 2024, everyone glows with spectral energy for some reason or another!

Well.. the party looks more weird and menacing than most things in RL.

This is my favorite kind of characters! Take a dex-based ancient paladin as a ranger, or a fighter with skulker and poisoner as an assassin.

Or just drop it altogether from the forum? Maybe?

I'm in it for the new cool art pieces.