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  1. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I did. I even responded to you with a description of my city-sandbox (here and elsewhere here, to @AbdulAlhazred). So far, no one has replied to those posts.
  2. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'm pretty sure we've been told that it shouldn't happen. If it can't happen, then there wouldn't be lengthy essays and articles about how to not have such a problem, such as the Alexandrian's Three Clue Rule, nor would anyone use Jennell Jaquays name as a verb used in connection with dungeon...
  3. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'm going to quote from the new Daggerheart game here, which uses Rolling With Hope to indicate a "good" thing happening (whether or not you succeed) and Rolling With Fear to indicate a "bad" thing happening (again, whether or not you succeed); I bolded those bits: So with your example, on a...
  4. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    What you should realize is that "interesting" doesn't mean ZOMG EXCITING!!1!. It means "not nothing." Because nothing is, well, nothing.
  5. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    And in every other situation? Or do your players only go to places that haven't been disturbed in ages. Not in every game it isn't. You can get some very interesting results if the players are "allowed" to weigh in. Which you're not actually playing in. I don't think anyone signs up for a...
  6. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Except that nothing is fixed anyway--that's why you roll the dice, to find out what the outcome will be.
  7. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I never got to that point. The part where Tom Bombadill, well, deus ex'd the group from the barrow-wights and then dressed them up like dolls made me throw the book across the room (not really; I respect books, even those I don't like). Personally, I can't stand most "Appendix N" books. I...
  8. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Then that's not a game where progression is locked behind a single roll.
  9. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Then the next question is, does "nothing happens" clearly make the most sense, or does it seem to because it's what you're used to? If they know they get a choice in the matter, they might be more willing to work against their characters. If they have to worry about a GM laying down the law all...
  10. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    In DungeonWorld (which I haven't played), the thief has a move called Tricks of the Trade. On a 7-9 (partial success), the player gets to choose what happens--but they must pick from two of suspicion, danger, or cost. They don't get to say "nothing happens" because something happens. So here...
  11. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I don't use random encounters. I don't bother figuring out the CR for the adversaries I use (since I rarely run monsters straight out of the book) because it's annoying and I find the CR system to be inexact and un-useful. They're all over the place, power-wise, anyway. My sandbox is a city...
  12. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Is a character who is being seriously injured by a monster in combat having fun? Some might be, but I'd bet a lot would realistically be scared or desperate. I, their player, could be having tons of fun. And I, the player, would not be having fun because I had to spend multiple sessions just...
  13. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That would be a perfectly logical, consequence in a fail-forward situation. It merely requires that the GM alert the PCs to the existence of the grue ahead of time.
  14. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Really? I had the players in my city-based game meet a potential adversary (potential in the sense that the players chose to talk their way out of combat rather than engage) who was... well, I don't even bother to calculate CR anymore, but she was a caster many levels higher than the PCs were...
  15. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Rule of storytelling: Deus ex machina is frequently cheap and/or boring. If an NPC is going to bust them out, it should be a known individual who has both the reasons and means to do so, not a random person who just showed up to save the day. Rule of reality: A secret admirer who is willing to...
  16. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Are they? You've looked at every sandbox ever made, including the homebrew ones, and determined this is the case all the time? It's funny. You: sandboxes have to be done this way. Me: No they don't. You: THAT'S NOT HOW SANDBOXES ARE SUPPOSED TO GO!!! Maybe you should stop One True Scotsmanning...
  17. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That's a huge assumption. It's incredibly easy to come up with something interesting that is 100% in the fiction. Example: they're in an area where there are monsters or guards. They take too long to do something and those monsters or guards (or someone who then alerts the monsters or guards)...
  18. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Because these cases are rarely about things like outdoor survival rolls. They're usually more about things like the Very Important Thing is in a secret compartment, behind a locked door, or requires a riddle to be answered, requiring a single roll or very small number of rolls, and getting past...
  19. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I hardly think having something interesting happen instead of having nothing happen is making reality bend over backwards.
  20. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Like I said, never in my experience. Hmm. No, I just don't see it. The characters may not be having fun, but the players should be.
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