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Tone notwithstanding, I'm still waiting to hear why milestone levelling can favor characters that somehow haven't earned it. Just that sentient alone led to my other comments, so perhaps you are right that I need to ware what words I use to describe my dislike of it. You've said you're more on...

Right back at you. No one said anything about changing the game to suit the player. I said talk to the player, and find out why they aren't taking part. That was just a hypothetical. I would clear any kind of campaign detail like level advancement with my players before the campaign even...

Well, I believe he was pretty clearly saying that the pitfall of milestone levelling is that the characters who don't contribute "by taking risks" benefit from the 'reward' of XP when they shouldn't. If he meant as you believe, then hell, I agree. If you have a bump on the log player who...

I'm honestly not sure what the crux of your stance is. It almost sounds like you agree with me on most points, save that of keeping characters the same level. I suppose we can clarify. I do not believe that levelling up all characters at a milestone - or as Lanefan said, 'arbitrarily' - is a...

See, I just don't understand this mentality, especially from the group that keeps trying to tell us that D&D is about more than combat. Reward them for doing nothing... You mean to tell me the player didn't come to those sessions and role play with everyone else? That they didn't take part in...

It may be worth noting, but most saves against illusion in 5E are Int saves, not Wis, and in later rounds characters make Investigate checks to pierce illusions.

I've actually run a campaign so far from level 3 to level 9 where we've used the 4E style of taking the best of str/con as Fort, dex/int as Ref, and wis/cha as Will. I don't recommend it. Spells and abilities in 5E are by design meant for characters to fail them quite often. That's why...

Sounds interesting. To a degree though, do you pick adventures that are appropriate for the party level? I assume you wouldn't add clues and hooks to a level 12 adventure when average party level is still 5. Would you agree that in a way, that's a bit of tailoring not the encounters, but the...

I suppose if there's a published Adventure path out there with sections for 11th level PC's, we could test the theory and see what kinds of combats they'd likely face, then see if the 5th level character (who isn't support, as it's obvious how they'd contribute) would fare.

I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder. Technically you already missed your chance to progress in the story, because you weren't there. On top of that, your level is lower. What part of levelling is where you get the fun from? I assume the fun is from the game itself, the story itself, so...

I definitely agree that it's more enjoyable to level a character up over multiple levels. My players often make multiple characters as well and sometimes switch between them. Heck I tried a campaign with 3 players playing 2 chars each. It actually was a heck of a lot of fun. Generally though, I...

Honestly, I have run games where they started at high level. There's nothing wrong with that. The only difference between our groups in that regard, is that they feel they've 'earned' their high levels for that campaign by reaching them with one character. They don't feel they need to keep...

Honestly, I have run games where they started at high level. There's nothing wrong with that. The only difference between our groups in that regard, is that they feel they've 'earned' their high levels by reaching them with one character. They don't feel they need to keep re-earning them on...

Well, if you're saying it like that, then obviously any party can fight any monster. It doesn't hold much weight. Here's a great example. She's playing a support character with next to no hp. So likely, she stays in the back, avoids any kind of attention, and focuses on buffing her allies...

Kind of an odd way of phrasing it. Shoehorning. As if you're forcing them to be higher level. Do your players resent the idea of coming back the same level without having 'earned' it? I'm curious as well for how your encounters go with such a diverse party. Are yours similar to ad_hoc in that...

This falls into what I said before about having to tailor your encounters to include things for the lower levels to do. If you don't take the extra step to do this, the low levels are in peril. Also, fireball is honestly just an example, there's plenty of worse spells, and low level characters...

Alright, but how low do you put new characters then? Half level of party? 1/3rd? The fact that you raise the level at all shows you understand at least a bit of what I mean on low level chars in a high level party are in danger, else why start them past 3 at all? I'm kind of calling bs here...

So you do agree in a sense that starting a character off at a low level when they die isn't always the best idea, especially if you're saying you up the level they start at depending on the level of the party. Also, if you don't tailor your challenges, then how do you avoid killing a 3rd level...

In some cases I can sympathize with not wanting to lose out on the fun of gaining levels, but in the other hand I mostly DM and I know the pain of trying to DM mixed level parties. You have to tailor the challenges far more than if the party is the same level. If the rest of the party is level 9...

I've always viewed death to be all the punishment a player needs. It means you lose your character, one you may have invested tens of hours of your time playing, and whom your best stories are about. To be forced to come back at a lower level, or even 1st Level, seems overly harsh to me. I...