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    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    The thing is the alternative of "ancestry" just sounds awful. Same with its synonyms : heritage,descent,origin. They dont translate as well. Just like "ethnicity" and "descent" arent interchangable in everyday language, so are these. -Species sounds the closest fitting one, barring its more...
  2. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    Huh ??? I didnt ascribe "harmful motive" to you. But this question is part of the logic : "You are not [insert group] therefore you cant have an opinion or your opinion is biased and doesnt count".
  3. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    Yeah, I know where this is going and is terible reasoning.
  4. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    "People" wouldnt really work. Just imagine it in real life context where the word is also used. You have "Irish people" and "Irish nation/ethnic group". When asking someone for his ethnic identity would you say "what people are you" or "what ethnicity/nationality are you" ? "Kin" might work...
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    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    It isnt innacurate when dealing with fantasy races which is the point. Also again, religion/gods/magic could be offensive to many. What's the point of intentionally hampering easy language ? "Race" in fantasy terms works fine in the same way "nation" and "nationality" do in real life. To...
  6. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    Calling elves,dwarves orcs as "races" has no bearing and no relation to the real life "race" and its negative associations. Cut the patronising tone.
  7. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    Neil Gaiman isnt exactly uknown as you try to portray him. That being said...the quote does come off as obnoxious. Political correctness =/= treating people with respect. Whitewashing history, religious censoring etc etc would also be political correctness.
  8. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    I think it kinda depends on the reasoning. Right now "race" is the most fitting word to describe creatures like orcs, elves, dwarves etc. It actually is more appropriate for fantasy than it is real life so there is no reasons to change it. If the justification is "some may not like it" where...
  9. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    I think you know you are arguing semantics here and what the actual underlying issue is.
  10. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    The funny thing I noticed is, the suggestions to use "nation,ancestry,origin,people etc" are actually kinda worse. With "race" you can at least argue that is slowly being phased out of our culture/perception and everyday language and will eventually be relegated to an antiquated word to...
  11. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    "species" ? Maybe but I would imagine it was used to describe animals, right ? It doesnt sound appropriate for humanoid/sentient creatures.
  12. J

    RPG Evolution: Do We Still Need "Race" in D&D?

    I am sure you are familiar with the term "false equivalence". Also, "Indian" is an actual nationalty distinct from Native Americans. No, not really. The terms themselves sound "off" and "wrong" in comparison to "race". THey sound too "past tense", too "forgone" so to speak, while "race"...
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