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Wow. Some people just don't realize when they're getting ripped-off. I'm actually quite surprised that some of you are OK with all this. It's curious how the quality of many products have diminished over the years, but people will keep on buying them. Maybe it's because you have no choice if you...

$23 (+ shipping) + $10 digital map + $30 Staples is not a good deal for a $40 book. And a map without a scale (as a campaign resource) is about as worthless as a car without tires. As I said before, they could've, at the very least, included a scale if they were going to screw us out of a fold...

"Entitled" was a term someone else had applied to my expectations in an earlier post. I don't think it's my God-given right to have a map included, but I did expect one. Most of my posts say "expected", if I said "entitled" it was in error.

Again, why would I hold myself responsible for expecting something that's been included in virtually every other setting product since when I started playing back in the days of 1e? I shouldn't have to check and make sure that something like that is included. Imo, it's an essential part of a...

I think this is fair. At least this way you could take it to Staples and have it blown up to poster size if you wanted, or you could just keep it handy for calculating travel times (since the digital version appears to have a scale on it).

Would you buy a car without tires? No. You do expect it though. The same as you expect it to have a steering wheel. I expect the ONLY option for a 5e Realms setting to have a workable map included. If you don't agree, more power to you. I already said that I based my purchase on good faith based...

I appreciate it. I skipped all of 4e and was really excited to start playing in the Realms again. I just want what's been included in just about every other setting resource since back when I played 1e, a decent map!

Yes, it DOES. I EXPECT a campaign setting to have the most basic of necessities: a map, just the same as I expect descriptions of locations, npc's, etc. The one page, tiny map with no scale included in the book is a joke and insult to the consumer, all in the name of saving a buck. If I didn't...

No, actually it DOES mean we are entitled to those maps! When you sell a product for so long in a certain fashion, the consumer EXPECTS the same or better going forward. I wouldn't buy a new Iphone and be ok with it NOT having Safari included, then have to pay extra to download that app. I...

A. I'm not the only one that "dumped" on this thread. B. I think it's relevant and on topic. C. The article realting to these posts is on the front page of EnWorld and I hope that someone from WotC looks through these posts and sees this.

I disagree, for only $10 more I got a shiny new PHB that was twice as big and used way more ink and paper than it would take for a map.

With regards to what you said about shrink wrap and no return policy not being WoTC's fault I never said it was. I do hold them at fault for not including a map.

Recess Games, North Olmsted, OH. Big sign at the register says "no refunds".

Look, I'm sorry that there are those of you out there that don't feel the same way that myself or many others do, and I'm truly happy that you like the product as is, I really am, but that doesn't make my opinion any less valid than yours. Back in the day, before I took a long hiatus from...

I didn't say it was a WoTC issue. What I said was that I wouldn't have bought the product had I known there was no pull-out map, and I couldn't tell because it was shrink-wrapped. And yes, it's a horrid place, but that's what I get for trying to support my local gaming store.

Why would I wait a day or two? I guess it's my fault for assuming that WotC would do right by ut's players and provide a pull-out map. Especially since most newer gamers don't have access to older Realms materials and the younger ones don't have $136 to shell out for a poster-sized map. Yep it's...

Oh, and before anyone says to "speak with my wallet" or "don't buy it if you don't like it", my FLGS shrink-wraps all their books. I had no way of knowing there wasn't a map included. They also have a no return policy. Had I known, I wouldn't have bought this product. I indeed would've spoken...

What I want to know is why a pull-out map wasn't included in the book. For $40 we should've gotten one. At the very least, the map inside the book should have a scale in it. How am I supposed to plan an adventure when I can't figure out how far it is from point A to point B?! Paying $136 for a...

Can someone tell me what the scale is for the maps in the book? I hope I'm just missing it somewhere, but none of the maps have any kind of scale. Kind of hard to determine travel times without it.

Picked up the SCAG yesterday. I was a little disappointed to find that there wasn't a pull-out map included. To add insult to injury, the maps printed in the book have NO SCALE. How am I supposed to know how many miles per inch? Am I just not seeing it somewhere? Can someone else with the book...