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This is not a fair or balanced view. For starters, the only metagaming I ever did was when I finally gave up on 3.5 wizards/sorcerers I played a negative plane-aligned cleric. OK, I did play a magic-user with a higher AC than the fighters, but it wasn't a problem - when I actually got caught in...

We're not short of refs willing to ref games, that's not the problem. I've reffed 7 sessions recently (of my own game), and I reffed an AD&D 1st edition campaign a few years ago. Anyway OGB and I have been having this debate for about 2 years, so it took a long time to hit the Internet...

Look, I've made it perfectly clear I don't HAVE to be playing a wizard in full plate, and I've also made it perfectly clear that if I were a wizard in full plate, I would EXPECT a negative. In principle, I don't mind reading up on armoured wizards if OGB wants to lend me the supplement. BUT:-...

What you have to remember if you're the type who never shuts their mouth (I am) is that the group would still have fun without you (as long as there's enough of them). The group I play in with OGB existed long before I joined and it's not as if they didn't FUNCTION without my big mouth...

Whereas OGB's problem is that he has been thoroughly brainwashed by the 3rd edition of a well-known commercially available RPG and is totally incapable of seeing any fault with it whatsover, however obvious the flaw may be, even to the extent that he twists any ideas about game-balance and...

Elvis Lives?

PS the key is, once they start to make a decision which isn't THOROUGHLY stupid, don't present counter-arguments, or they will just give in and not try again

Actually I think the solution lies in working out how to gently and subtly coax the other players to take gradually and incrementally more responsibility for their characters' actions. For instance, your character could, instead of saying "do this, do that", phrase your suggestions as questions...

I slip very easily into thinking in terms of numbers and statistics, I'm comfortable with tricky rules, I often have a clear vision of how I think the game should be in terms of flavour and I can be a bit of a perfectionist. Together these traits can lead to me getting frustrated when the way...

And we're now just about at the stage where I've made my pitch... I think OGB is considering his options, so I'm ready for that curved ball...

analysing Omnifray:- http://www.omnifray.com Considering my game Omnifray (Omnifray RPG - Home) against the backdrop of the OP's parameters, using his numbering:- 1.) Omnifray is an original, built-from-scratch system. NOT a reskinning or adaptation of any other system. 2.) Omnifray is...

The game hasn't even started yet, but basically if I don't play, it's possible that it may not run at all (in a group of 5, 2 players are somewhat irregular attenders). And that would probably mean that OGB would NOT be the GM - we would be playing something different (currently AD&D 1st edition...

Obviously I gave him the link to the thread, to provide him with the information to back up my claims. But I don't think of it as peer pressure because he was not, at that time, known even by a nickname to anyone on here. I was relying on you all as a source of info, not as a source of moral...

Fair enough - but that wasn't the original intention of the thread, which was just to collect examples of literature references for armoured wizards. OGB didn't even have a forum presence before this thread - he created his ID to respond to this thread in particular. So, not really "peer...

Mine:- Omnifray RPG - Home It may appear a little complicated and it may demand effort, but it's worth it:- it's my baby. :-)

I would have about Strength 10 in game terms (5'7", 147lb) and I can wear 29lb of heavy chainmail, plus some solid metal greaves, for 8 hours at a time and still move quite easily in live action roleplaying. After those 8 hours, I'm knackered, but I can go the 8 hours. And I can fight quite...

If the DM can't set the parameters of the game in a way which means that a particular player is likely to enjoy the game [with everyone at the table bearing their share of responsibility for fun during the actual game], the DM's wasting that player's time and can't expect him to play except out...

In Labyrinthe LARP, wizards are allowed to carry two metal objects of dagger-size or less. Warlocks, who are basically fighter-magi who only use magic offensively (or sometimes also defensively, but not for general utility), are allowed to carry one double-handed sword's WORTH of metal. That...

The DM can set the parameters of the game he proposes to run, but it is his responsiblity to ensure the players enjoy the game. Anyway the Magocracy game sounds like a possibility, but the devil is in the detail as they say. Right, apologies to everyone for the intensity of this debate...

PS as I see it as things currently stand a bare majority of people (about 51%) who have voted within the 1st 9 options of the poll (i.e. not "other") prefer either no restrictions on armour, or the Omnifray option of armour being allowed by default, unless a pact or entity says no. That gives me...