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Well yes there definitely is a feel of primary/secondary. However if we consider that level of variation on builds, then it is not just 136 or 272 but rather each possible combination of two classes with or without the feat, with each separate choice of the feat available, with or without...

Well Eberron has that (The Silver Flame and the Sovereign Host do not like each other that much but they certainly don't go at war against each other).

My homebrew has several religions, including a couple of monotheistic ones. I always disliked the fact that many campaign settings seem to have one big pantheon with mainly variation of worship locally or in some exotic location (one of the things I love in Eberron is that it does not do this)...

I am pretty sure that someone can draw a hot X-rated fungus chick. Someone probably already has. The internet after all was made for porn, right?

Great observation, hybrid classes are very much like AD&D multiclassing indeed.

Ah I knew that combination sums had a better formula, I just did that by hand, thanks. Incidentaly does Excel have a function for combinations? Anyway it is indeed a big number.

Btw Sum(C(16,n))n=1, n=16 = 78405, way less than 16! which is about 2.09e+13

I forgot to add the possible human additional feat as well. Anyway that bard would need save at least one feat for combat virtuoso. He'd probably have every skill in the game as well right?

I think the thread is a bit unclear to be honest. Do you mean whether 3E helped new DM to develop into good DMs, dit it help older edition DMs to get better or worse or maybe both? Cause I think they are somewhat different discussions.

But if they correct past mistakes in the DDI and the next print run of MM1 includes them will people not raise hell that this is stealth 4.5?

Well N=<19 since a bard can have up to 19 multiclass feats (17 multiclass feats plus the bard epic that gives 2 multiclass feats). Since currently N=16 counting swordmage but not artificer (sho doesn't yet have a multiclass feat) we could possibly have a bard with a multiclass feat for every...

As a system I think it hurt. New DMs would be fast overwhelmed by the system's complexity, especially considering monster and NPC creation and gameplay, entry level play was still wonky with players easily getting oneshotted (even by their housecats) and high level play was as often has been...

My homebrew is rather large so it has places that are primarily matriarchal, or patriarchal or gender neutral, places that support different fantasy archetypes, and features roleplaying and dungeon crawling about equally. I want more options:)

Bard multiclassing options is probably the sum on combinations C(16,n) for n=1 n=16 which is less than 16! but still a fairly large number. But I am probably horribly wrong and I haven't really used that type of statistics for years . . .

They are also some of the few undead that are don't start as evil. Still the major aspect of a revenant is that it is unkillable until the one who murdered it is dealt with and it gets several bonuses to deal with its killer. After it exacts its revenge it passes on.

Zuggtmoy has huge assets why should myconid chicks fall short? Boobs for everyone I say! (provided they are female)

Fell Taints! First time I skimmed through my newly bought MM2 Fell Taints were probably the critter that gave me the unexpected WOW response. Nasty little buggers and available for low level heroic as well! Give more!

Have him meet some old thief who has had his hand chopped off. In my homebrew, the majority of humanocentric nations do this to thieves.

Dwarven Druids remind me of Denara from the otherwise atrocious Deities and Demigods. Anyway, if your players are ready to sacrifice character fluff to get the optimal numbers for combat you are not playing a roleplaying game anymore . . . Dwarven druids would either have to come from some...

Nice, very nice. I like the changes, they seem to fix most of the obvious issues. Now we can really get to playtesting this. I foresee at least three of my players who have multiclass feats to switch to hybrids now (fighter/warlord, cleric/fighter and bard/paladin). As for very high AC values...