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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    How does this help with the point I made originally, though? We already know that in FR people pay homage to all the gods of their pantheon (unless you're drow, then the only logical option is to focus on only one of the gods of that pantheon), and pray to them for different aspects and events...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    If that's your reasoning against a book, then RPG companies should stop producing books about lore and story altogether, and just put up mechanics with no narrative. Is this book *needed*? Well, no. Then again, are so many adventure paths needed? No. This is about storytelling, nearly nothing is...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    Sure, but knowing common, widespread rituals for a faith, common manifestation for deities, the duties of a cleric (not as in preaching, but as in the example that I made about the Lliiran) and so on, is good lore that can be added, and that doesn't enforce anything. It seems to me that you...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    Reading the FR deity books, I see a wide variety of inspiration, *far* from just Christianity (or Christianity at all). There's no need to retcon it, because mass preaching or stuff like that never really was a thing in first place, AFAIK. In any case, regarding the example of the Lliiran...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    The Realms have entire books dedicated to the ideals, duties, celebrations and such of the various faiths. Ancient religion also had similar things. No one talked about converting other people and the likes, it's more about things like a Lliiran cleric lending their help to a village that is...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    Of all the elven subraces put together? I doubt that. Even 2x or 3x of the elven birthrate wouldn't offset the stupid high mortality of the drow--due to the Underdark, scarcity of food, infighting, and total absence of a sense of community in an environment that requires a sense of community for...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    They breed faster, but not *that* faster (and they have an immensely higher mortality rate than elves to offset that). Also, do we know if this is still true in 5e?
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    Lolth did nearly nothing, actually, the rest of the pantheon went against each other. In any case, the point is not that, the point is that at least half of the drow gods have goals, personalities and motivations that are simply not compatible with not being at war with Lolth. That's why they...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    Idk, remeber that the drow are not a race on their own, but a subrace. It's not the same as Corellon, Yondalla, etc... In addition (up to the drastic changes of MToF), the drow pantheon has never been a pantheon in the regular sense. Lolth nominally is the chief, but the Dark Seldarine is but a...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    First, I think that standing in front of an avatar gives off very different vibes than standing in front of the deity themselves. Second, he's transported into the Demonwebs to eet Lolth herself, or so it is said in the book. In any case, from a narrative PoV, it makes sense for Lolth to be...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    In 5e (so, Post-Sundering), we know that greater gods can't be personally met by mortals (even though you can meet their avatars). An example, as Perkins put it in the latest LYSK, is Zeus (so I'd say that the really big names, like Corellon, Mystra, etc... count too). Lolth, OTOH, can be...
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    5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book

    Both have already been demoted to lesser gods (DMG and MM). It makes sense, due to their recent, large losses (especially Lolth's).
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    Elves in forgotten realms and 5e - what is the official source?

    Green and pre drow were gated in by the Fey creator race, because they somehow assumed that those elves would help against the Dragon. They didn't worship the Seldarine, even tho part of the Dark Seldarine dedicated themselves to Toril (Vhaeraun, Eilistraee, Ghaunadaur). All the other kinds of...
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    Second Dungeons & Dragons Product for Fall 2018: Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage

    It is stealthily being retaken by the followers of Eilistraee, according to Ed Greenwood.
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    The Next Dungeons & Dragons Storyline Will Be...

    At this point, yeah, that's painfully obvious.
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    The Next Dungeons & Dragons Storyline Will Be...

    A Dragon also is a Waterdhavian gold coin. You're stealing a treasure, therefore... gods, the puns.
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    Baalzebul is back to normal (And other new lore discoveries.)

    That holds true when you consider lore as a tool for gaming. Some people, however, are invested in the D&D worlds and their story just like other people are invested in--say--the GoT series, or the Malazan series, or the Wheel of Time series, and so on. They care about the lore because they care...
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    D&D 5E My Review of Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes is Live will also answer any questions

    Well, strange, but I don't have any particular problem with that. If Eilistraee also gets followers in GH, that's a big + in my book.
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    D&D 5E My Review of Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes is Live will also answer any questions

    They listed Eilistraee because the book covers all worlds. Same as Vulkoor. Vhaeraun was like Eilistraee, until they put him in the Living Greyhawk campaign, and that's the only reason why he's both a Torilian and Oerthian god. Both Eilistraee and Vhaeraun are dedicated to Toril, Eilistraee even...
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    D&D 5E My Review of Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes is Live will also answer any questions

    Yeah, but Eilistraee has always been a Torilian goddess, and Drizzt has never been out of Toril. There are deities that are only active in a single sphere, for whatever reason. That's why the Greyhawk drow are far more monolothic than the Realmsian drow. FR drow are *far* more nuanced than...
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