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  1. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    There's 32 teams in the NHL. Only one of them can win the Stanley Cup each year. Does that make cheering for a team that doesn't win it (and in the case of my team, has never won it) a good sports-fan strategy? I sure hope not. Same is true of D&D characters. It's a pyramid, where a few...
  2. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    In all fairness, while you gave the player-side version of the situation we don't know what the DM has in mind. Were I the player here and brought this up, I'd fully expect an answer along the lines of "What you just said is probably exactly how your character feels at the moment - something...
  3. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Similar here. A lot of it, I think, also comes from living in the same city all my life. Here, in our games we've all been through the wars and drama and angst and, after slowly running off the people who took it all too seriously, have largely learned to just play such things for laughs. My...
  4. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It's a question of vague vs precise. "It looks easy" is IMO far more vague than a precise "The DC is 7"; and most of the time the PC in the fiction wouldn't do any better than the vague estimate of whether something like climbing a cliff* is trivial, easy, tricky, hard, very hard, or good luck...
  5. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'll do that for NPCs sometimes too, but never in the moment while the interaction is still ongoing or might potentially resume. Afterwards, once the interaction is long over and the NPC is highly unlikely to be or become relevant again, then sure. Rulings I'll always try to explain and I...
  6. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It's if-when the GM says... 3) Oh, I dunno - <shrug> - I'll make something up at the time depending what I feel like. ...that the red flags fly and the feet start looking for the door.
  7. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Let's be...erm...realistic here for a moment: the players have access to most of the information already. Whether they actually read and-or remember much of it is another question entirely. :)
  8. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The nearest a D&D edition has come to (trying for) having a rule for everything was 3.xe. History tells us that was probably overkill; 4e didn't back off this idea far enough, which led to 5e and its rulings-not-rules mantra. And while rulings-not-rules is a fine way to allow DMs to make...
  9. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Not all of us. Many rules for many things are very useful indeed. It's just the unnecessary rules (in which bucket fall nearly all social-interaction rules IMO) that have to go. In many ways, my game probably has more and tighter rules than, say, 5e for a lot of things; mostly due to 40-odd...
  10. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    ...until Snardly XII succeeds where all before him have failed, and goes on to become a superstar...
  11. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Which, if it's what the characters would end up doing in the fiction, is a perfectly justifiable result.
  12. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Agree with this as long as the extreme results are just that - extreme - and the odds of their occurring are correspondingly very low.
  13. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Except you kind of have to, don't you? If it's the Ranger, who has all kinds of outdoor climbing skills, asking about a climbable-for-him cliff then my answer "should be fairly easy for you" is going to be a lot different than the "good luck with that" answer the spindly Wizard would get to the...
  14. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    My preference is that rulings become rules. The original rule-set isn't going to cover everything no matter how hard it tries, you have to slowly pad it out with rulings that (in your game) become rules going forward until eventually you've got something much more complete.
  15. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    To be fair, from prior posts it seems Ezekiel doesn't play with an in-person group; his play is (entirely?) online with people he hasn't met in real life, which is a rather different situation than playing in-person with friends.
  16. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I wouldn't give away either number. :)
  17. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    TBH, if things have got to the point of "expect[ing] accountability" and "ask[ing] for redress" the situation is 99% likely unsalvageable, because - in my view anyway - if terms like that are being invoked things have already escalated to the point of no return. Then again, it'd have to be...
  18. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Sometimes it might be obvious, other times not. That, and were it me running it reaction spells like that would cease to exist in a real hurry; you'd have to cast it ahead of time and if it helps, it helps and if it doesn't, it doesn't. Maybe the opponent would have missed anyway. I really...
  19. Lanefan

    D&D General D&D Editions: Anybody Else Feel Like They Don't Fit In?

    I've felt "snowed" on some of their surveys and been suspicious of the rest. What's more telling to me is that whenever they do a survey and there's a thread about it here, how vastly different the surveys we each saw and did seem to be. The cynic in me says it's because they already 99% know...
  20. Lanefan

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I just googled the 5e Shield spell and my point stands: it looks dirt simple, and the player can look it up for themselves.
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