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Yeah, I know. But Derren asked me for a PHB reference regarding rituals. I was simply making a point - namely that he couldn't actually back up his points using the PHB either. Derren uses these kinds of arguments regularly, and makes a point of trolling these boards, so I feel no obligation...

Ummm, you don't seem to have understood my request. I didn't say compare spells with the same name. I said take 5-6th level characters in 3E and 4E, look at the utility spells available to them, and compare them.

Derren, missile weapons are banned in 4E.

I don't think my 4E PHB is the same as your 4E PHB. Mine contains non-damaging spells, whereas yours apparently says they've all been banned. I'd consider taking it back. Very interesting. Let's take 5th-6th level characters as an example. Tell how 4E utility spells have been nerfed...

4E still includes both utility spells and rituals which don't inflict damage. Things like teleport and invisibility are still in, though at different levels. I know this makes it harder for you to dislike everything about 4E, but there you are.

One moment I was on the Plots, Places & Rogues! sub-forum. Suddenly, from nowhere, a strange mist enveloped me. When it cleared, I found myself on this strange demi-thread, with no way to return. Already I have encountered many strange beings, all taken from their home forums, now trapped as I...

Compared to 3E, 4E is supposed to be lighter on both magical items and PC deaths. So I think the problem is going to be rather less severe than it was in the past.

So you, as the DM, veto the idea. I happen to agree, because unless the secret passage was on an ancient map, or had played some significant role in history, there would be absolutely no reason for History to be appropriate in that situation, even if it was decided that such a passage did in...

1. More transparency in the maths, plus useful discussion of ways that the rules can be modified to suit your gaming style. Possibly the single most important thing that 4E brings to the table, I would say, since a lot of groups end up house-ruling regardless of edition. 2. Less dependency on...

Wow, apparently I'm a 10. :D

I was thinking along similar lines. Impossible to say how exactly to implement the change until the rules are out, but it might make for a grittier and more believeable game. From a dramatic perspective, I think there's a lot to be said for PCs to sometimes wake up still wounded and feeling awful.

Seems unlikely that they would have removed flying. For one thing, that would mean no flying monsters or magic-items. Since both are present, flying rules must be included.

My favourite quote: "And there’s no such thing as a magic item shop anymore." I have memories from 20 years ago of my fellow players trying to persuade me to buy the Staff of Striking+2, because I only had the +1 version. While I wept quietly into my character sheet. A less fanastical D&D...

I'm defintely looking forward to the 4E Draconomicons. I'll get the first 2 on Amazon, the other 3 I'll probably have to order directly from Derren's fevered imagination. Does anyone have a link?

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Hi folks, I had been wondering, given the changes to the 4E wizard, whether there would still be an opportunity to steal/buy spells from other wizards. This blog suggests it might be so: http://www.gleemax.com/Comms/Pages/Communities/BlogPost.aspx?blogpostid=27100&pagemode=2&blogid=2100 The...

Since both feats refer to caster level, rather than class level, I would say that your character will count as being level 5 for determining available improved familiars. On the other hand, the PHB familiar table refers to class level, so you'd only be level 1 for determining familiar abilities.

Tricky. It all comes down to what counts as 'going against their nature'. Most PCs wouldn't normally attack their comrades, or commit suicidal acts, so this is clearly against their nature. On the other hand, attacking their enemies or just standing around are thinking that they would...

I played a few magic-users in 1st Ed, and I lost a couple of them to the 're-roll every round' rule. On one occasion, a thief backstabbed me, rolled to avoid my mirror images, then got a higher initiative roll, and backstabbed me again, and promptly picked me out of 4 mirror images for the...

One thing I did think about was a keen rapier (or scimitar), since this would give me the 30% chance of a threat without having to spend a feat. Or there's the falchion, which is 2-handed and does 2d4 base damage. Thing is, I've found some decent magic weapons, and I'm reluctant to start...