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Exactly, lol now I'm getting all nostalgic and considering running a short pro-wrestling campaign myself.

Thats not a sandbox. If you dont actually have a say in the outcome and a chance to succeed its a railroad. There was after all only one possible outcome no matter what you do. Thats pretty close to the definition of railroad.

Roleplaying encounters involving side bets, stopping the NPC's friends from cheating in some way and letting them try to find ways to cheat themselves helps. Other then that you can always just keep it quick too. Most of the time 2 equally optimized, relatively equally leveled characters...

Yes but as a player you can make a bad sandbox better by being pro-active and looking for things to do. With a bad railroad your just spending a few hours sitting there bored and wondering why you didnt stay home and watch TV instead. You have no say or ability to improve things.

I actually LIKED most of what i heard about 4e and the ideas they talked about UNTIL i played it. Then I was quickly so turned off I texted my girlfriend to call with a fake emergency so I had an excuse to leave early and not insult my friends. Turns out I shouldnt have bothered, most of the...

Nope, such a game will not fail eventually. thats a fallacy. Games are entertainment and entertainment doesnt need to make fundamental changes to stay alive for the simple reason that there are always new people growing up and trying it for the first time. What might be boring old hat to you...

Because thats like saying "I love chocolate chip cookies, today I want brownies, and expect to get a brownie, but the name on that menu for the item had damn well better say chocolate chip cookies. I aint ordering no brownies, no matter what". If you want brownies, just order the brownie. You...

I can definitely see something similar to neverwinter nights, especially if they keep the ability to make your own custom content being popular. Shooter games played with headsets are played by the tens of millions after all and the voice enviroment is really well done. It wouldnt be that...

Why do you need D&D for different types of games? Theres a million RPG's out there and some are really good at types of games that D&D isnt. Play one of them. I do when I want a break.

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you werent actually TRYING to come off as condescending as hell towards something you dont really seem to like..... but if so you went pretty far off the mark. Cause that reads as one big post about " i didnt mean to call this other thing...

I think by sandbox concept they mean having lots of different ways to get to the end, and ideally several different possible endings. So the characters decisions actually have some say in determining the outcome, rather then with a lot of pre-written adventures, especially older ones, where...

See thats a sign of one of the actual problems in growing the hobby. Too many old dudes looking down their noses at the culture and interests of the younger people who you need to make have a good time when they play in order to get the game to stick with them. Your pop/jazz analogy is bogus...

Meh, I think your wrong about sandboxes needing to be prepped too. I've pretty much exclusively ran sandbox games for years specifically because I dont have a lot of time to prep. I just make it up as I go. Its really not that hard. When the players are looking for something to do just make...

In part its a self fulfilling cycle. People who arent that interested in rules debates look and see a whole front page of rules debates. Rather then trying to swim upstream against a perceived board preference they just check a different board and look for active threads about the things they...

a lot of people here are creating a false divide between online gaming with digital tools and in person gaming. My group and a lot of groups I know use all or mainly digital tools for our in person game. Theres a large TV at the head of the game table. I run an HDMI cable from the computer...

I'm actually boggled by this whole debate. The rules on stealth are crystal clear and anyone acting like they arent seem to be more looking for something to complain about than any real rules issue. What light/concealment you and your opponent are in have rules. (like every other edition of...

Theres an easy answer to these so called problems. You do what we've done for 20 years..... ask the new GM what to expect from the game instead of showing up full of expectations.

I'd like to see psions and setting books for sure but If I had to pick just one thing it would be loads of short ( 1 or 2 sessons) adventures of different levels that are generic enough for me to pick up and quickly modify to fit my campaign/story when its been a busy week or the players went...

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Weekly game, with room for a few new players. Mainly a sandbox but I'm loosely being guided by an AP.