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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    I mean they have to be big. The Much beloved Laserllama Alternative Ranger is over a dozen pages. Appealing to almost everyone would be 20 pages devoted just to ranger. It's not but the space is still not given. Exactly. You would have to rewrite and create new Ranger spells or Ranger knacks...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    It's not a conspiracy. It's just regular caster bias. That's because there are typically too small. Creating a ranger that the plurality of the D&D community would like requires a good amount of page space. The Ranger fantasy mostly includes aspects that require rules for each one of them...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Sure. But that would be requiring either devoting pages to for: A) spells Or B) non-spell feature Solely to the ranger. And that's the blockade. It's like trying to create the warlock without the invocations. Fans don't create content for ranger. Very few people make unique ranger spells...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    I don't think you're getting the entire gist of what I'm talking about. Would this be flavorful for a Ranger?: A level 1 spell that gives them a resistance to an elemental damage type A level 3 spell that gives them and anyone near them resistance to two damage types. A level 5 spell that...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    The fact that you think any of that is Tier 3 is 50% the problem.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    That's because in Tier 3, the base game transitions to planar play. Wilderness survival can and should get more dangerous options as you level. Rangers should have exclusive spells that help survive sharknados, elemental storms, and fairy illusionary charms as well as survive on demon worlds...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    The issue isn't that it's hard. It's that doing this that justifies its inclusion (worth investing, scales with level appropriately) is never allocated the space.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    With Psions, 4 different factions fighting for 1 slot for a class. And no faction will accept any other version. With Ranger, while there might be 3 or 4 (pure martial, half caster, supernatural skill) factions fighting for the 1 slot, any of the factions would be mostly okay if you give any...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Except the Ranger's problem is just... Page Count Even the beloved Laserllama ranger is 4 pages of base class 1 page for each subclass 1 page for beast companions 2-3 pages of knacks. That's 12 pages for a nonwizard, noncleric. And it's not complete. Not gonna happen. A5e ranger is 12...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    The Ranger is the user of wilderness and hunting skills. Unfortunately the fan community wants wilderness skill but hates learning new rules and can't agree how to implement them in existing rules. And the wizard biased caster lovers don't want to add more non-spell pages to the PHB.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Well the Bard didn't start as a full caster. Bard and Warlock became full casters because WOTC and 3PPs suck at balancing not full casters. Also the community is too freaking wizard biased to extend niches to other types of magic. But I'll say it again The ranger exists and is a half caster...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Eldritch to me is the realm of the "almost divine". The powers of the not-gods. The Arches The Archfiend The Archfey The Archangel The Lich The Old God Those with a lot of destructive or manipulative power but without the full command of a domain nor the constraints of a domain.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    I like half casters as well Arcane half-casters: Artificer Eldritch half-caster: Warlock Divine half-casters: Paladin Primal half-caster: Ranger Universal half-caster: Bard Ranger would still have to cast spells because the majority of rangery effects require specific language and most D&D...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Eh. Class are just a laundry list of pre-selected feats balanced around being pre-selected.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    That's only because Laser LLama doesn't have to stay true to backwards compatibility. I basically say D&D Goldilocks Class name is about 20. The main classes massing are Bender/Elementalist - Noncaster who has more fine control of the elements Chosen/Exemplar- Warrior version of Warlock...
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    D&D (2024) Is it possible to balance the six abilities?

    To me the easiest and most meaningful to balance is STRENGTH: Armor Strength is factored into armor. Medium armor is better than light armor. Heavy armor is better than medium armor. DEXTERITY: Initiative Low Dexterity means you go last. CONSTITUTION: HP Constitution factors into HP...
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    D&D (2024) Is it possible to balance the six abilities?

    3e was a mess. Fort saves were serious suck or death on fail. Reflex saves did damage but nothing serious unless the target was extremely under leveled. Will saves rarely killed, sometimes incapacitated, and sometimes did niche nerfs but 99% came from spells. You have to rejigger ALL the...
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    D&D (2024) Is it possible to balance the six abilities?

    Again.. Only works if both DM, Player , and Designers agree to the base assumption. Because I could make a Death Strength Save spell that pulls the target 50 feet under ground. It's why AC Dextery vs HP Constitution works but Banish Charisma doesn't.
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    D&D (2024) Is it possible to balance the six abilities?

    No. It's a major issue. The entire basis behind making every ability score balanced by tying them to defenses requires you to make the rate of targeting that defense relative to its magnitude of prevention equal among every defense. Without that you end up with how strength-based saving...
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    D&D (2024) Is it possible to balance the six abilities?

    Only works if you rejigger all the monster attacks evenly to all defences. Which is a MAJOR stretch.
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