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But they are still mechanical, and there is still that momment of contact. Plus there is that problem that your are changing a saving throw for a spell, that the mind influencing portion of it is taken out of play. Actually looking back though my post I have another thought. At the moment that...

I vote that you are venting, which sounds a lot alike whining but isn't quite. ;) I mean if you aren't using this tactic often then not much of a loss, right? Hey, did anyone mention counterspelling? Probably. There are still lots of ways to screw with a spell caster. Getting him to burn...

I actually feel that Con 20 is more beneficial to a spell caster than Int/Cha/Wis 20, up front that is. So I'd take a Con 20 Int 18 (Gnome, although they have size issues) before Con 16 Int 20 (given the -2 Con penalty you have to deal with), for a starting character. In the first few levels...

However that has material over the pit, material that has some resistance in it and that you can push off of, if ever-so-slightly. It also gives feedback of sponginess as you get a slight amout of backpressure and then give as opposed to no fixed point at which you don't feel the floor when...

I like that in-game explaination Psimancer. However I get the sense that two will have to go OOC before or after to help explain that this is being done because he made a mistake, not just because the player is being punished for the tactic (which BTW i think was a very creative responce to a...

But a DC of what? And what precedence would there be for this? Sure it sounds like a Reflex, but this is a mind affecting spell. There are lots of spells you could argue where the saving throw could go another way (especially between Will and Fortitude). But altering the saving throw from the...

Please forgive me if this has been mentioned already, but I don't have the desire, nor even the stomach to wade through a couple of pages of posts about this. Frankly I would rather metaphorically gouge out my eyes than tranverse a sea of complaints of metagaming that don't really work towards...

Yah, that is basically what i was thinking. I saw that spell text too, it mirrors the PHB explanation of general saves vs. illusion spells. But still it is somewhat inconclusive in that it doesn't mention if the "interaction" happens before or after you are falling. Don't get me wrong, I WANT...

It will depend a lot of the gear and ability scores of those PCs. With a SR 25 and that immunity list you're likely looking at primarily weapon damage to bring down. Given that rogues often (although not always) rely heavily on Sneak damage, and there will be no Sneak vs. this opponent and...

I'm talking about a "trap" that has no moving mechanical parts. Something in the that general pit trap class such as a bridge missing part of that deck that is "completed" with an illusionary section in the middle. The intended victim is walking along not suspecting anything, no Detect Magic up...