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Touche! I retract my complaint. The issue is still there, but I've just had my eyes opened to the fact it always was. Thank you.

I'm on the side of the OP here. I WANT to like 4E, but there are some issues that just feel wrong. This is one of them. There are a number of things that irk me, but I intend to overlook them until I've got at least a few games in. There are some changes that I really love, but they don't shine...

AHAH! Un-labeled, un-indexed, but it's there. Thanks!

Armour proficiency On a related note to the rest of the thread... Where are the penalties for not being proficient in armour? The feats just say you gain training in the armour, but I cannot find anywhere that it actually state what that means. With weapons, not being proficient means you miss...

Pretty simple really - I won't buy this edition if they split the basic content across too many 'core' books. I refused to by PHB2 for content that should have been in PHB1. Where are my sacred cows? Zustiur.

I meant sets as in, you roll one set for each ability. That is, you roll 3d6 for strength, this is one 'set' 3d6 for dexterity is the next set, and so on. Zustiur

No thanks, I'd rather play DnD. This is most definitely one of those 'sacred cows'. Zustiur.

On a related topic - Does anyone have a list of how the various dice rolling methods equate to in points buy? That is, if you look at the statistics, how many points do you expect from: a) 3d6 six sets b) 4d6 drop lowest. six sets c) 4d6 drop lowest. seven sets, drop lowest d) 4d6 reroll 1s...

Maybe you should consider switching off your wireless modem! Kills the source of that behavior without removing a very useful tool. Zustiur.

Let's see - in my group it feels like this: The players don't own any books or miniatures The players don't put any effort towards keeping a journal (or indeed keeping any information on what happened during the game) The players don't bring food or other goodies I always have to host Certain...

This is where the economic argument falls down. Sure, you can have a higher bonus by dropping an enhancement from the bow and increasing the arrows... but the melee fighter's sword isn't going to run out of ammo. As for stacking - I think I've always played the 2e way? Where the enhancements...

Ack! Voadam even. Excuse my failing eyesight!

1 The complete cartographer. A short guide for DMs on making good maps, including tips on architecture, geography and different 'styles' of cartography. 2 Increase the quantity of maps-of-mystery generated by WotC. Both in Dungeon/Dragon mags and on their website. Zustiur.

Very helpful I've been wondering exactly the same thing as the OP. I had also drawn the conclusion/assumption that PHB and maybe PHBII would be all I need. The DMG's don't really hold a lot of rules per se, so I don't think the update there is a major issue. The PHB contains the majority of the...

I knew I would get a good response by posting here. ENWorld rules. No one has provided maps with the 'old-world-hand-drawn' quality that I'm hoping for, so any more suggestions here are definately welcome. I think FireyDragon is the solution to question 2. No suggestions so far for cheap...

Lots of dungeons... but very few overland maps. Thanks for the link. This is the sort of style I'm after http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mapofweek/Overland_4_72_dpi_nv390.jpg Does anyone else have a source like this? Ack! I forgot all about image search. Thanks for reminding me. See my...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggg! I GIVE UP! I just realized I've spent about 6 hours today scouring the net for various resources, and I've gotten nowhere! :confused: Can somebody PLEASE help me with the following: 1) A source of free, printable, overland maps that I can...

Ah. I'm using 3.0 books. So no, there is only 'one' Symbol spell, and it is definately level 8. That aside, a 5th level spell still indicates NPCs about twice the level I'm thinking of for the BBEG. Green Slime: I've just added sleep arrows to my list of potential items. (Psi)SeveredHead: I'm...

Stalker0: Jaw droppingly simple. Light armour and run feats for all of the men! Green Slime: Picking on the fools that give chase sounds like an excellent plan. Kid Charlemagne: The church bell trick would be very cinematic and well suited to the sort of game I'm trying to run. Expeditious...

Some good replies so far. I'll try to respond to each in turn. Arwink: I don't think I've ever found circumstances where anyone gets away, unless I was approaching TPK. I only expect the 'Robin' character to get away once, just to give the party something to hunger for. I would not normally...