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Well I've been here since '82, playing on-and-off since then; currently getting ready for my next campaign in the Realms...buuuuttt...I suspect I'm way too "old style" for y'all's taste ;) I run by-the-book, with lots of house rules to recreate a "first-edition feel" and no half/quarter/eighth...

Hey Boz! Thanks for keeping this thread goin! ;) Hmmm...with all these 'difficulties' I'm beginning to agree with Shade that the whipsting is a weird one! :p I wouldn't mind the +4 bonus for the first (i.e. spring) attack. And I definitely agree we need a lot of racial bonuses to avoid too...

Hmmm...size is a tough call. I'm inclined to go with small to medium (even though I HATE keeping track of the size modifier :\ ), but I could live with medium to large... Just out of curiosity why'd you go with aberration vs plant? I'm gonna look at various creatures in the Manuals to see if...

Oh thank you, thank you, thank you! :lol: I don't know much about linnorms so I didn't have anything useful to contribute. thom

OK! OK! the horgar...then can we "pretty please" consider the whipsting?? Thanks for the efforts guys! thomas

:lol: :lol: GOOD one Shade ;) I can't see anything else you need to cover; I like the skills just fine-let's wrap this sucker up and move on to the whipsting! ;) Thanks for all the hard work guys! I'll be using our friendly 'mist very soon! :) thom

I think the DC is just a normal grapple combat between the 'mist and its target, and therefore doesn't have a DC involved. This looks like a winner! :) thom

Does "posting in homebrews" mean you're done? Just curious... thom

Welcome back BOZ!;) I like the sense blood writeup, AND the way you've got attacking engulfed beings handled. I would definitely go with the 1D4 for gain of temporary hit points, any more would be too powerful, IMHO...grumble, grumble, I still like the idea of max hit points minus a...

Hey BOZ! anything you need help on figuring out? I don't want to step on any toes here! <sg> thom

It makes sense to me, because it's gaseous, and you should spell it out so DMs don't have to wrangle with their PCs over it :cool: What's wrong with giving the mist the maximum hit points to start with, and then (as BOZ suggested) just roll 1D6, 1D8, or even 1D10 for hit points missing at the...

Yes!! That's what I was having trouble with; how to handle the mechanics of the 'mist's actual envelop/engulf attack. BTW, have you thought of the mechanics for how the enveloped PC's allies attack the engaged pair? The Greyhawk MC states that an enveloped victim takes half the damage...

Sorry I'm late to the party! ;) I'm quite happy with 10/magic, I was going with 5/magic based on the coversion from 3.0 to 3.5 guide about monster stats. The guide also mentioned about how to figure AC (usually CR + 13); I was shooting for a CR3 creature so that's how I arrived at AC16...

LOL! No, Shade's right - he did graciously concede on the vampiric mist, so I will stand aside here on the linnorms! thom

Hey BOZ!! is this where you're gonna post your conversion of the Vampiric Mist? I'd vote for that next after Shade's idea (or even sooner if you're willing - sorry Shade <sg>!! thom thomas@jtbs.net

Okay...can we pretty please do the whipsting next?? <sg> thomas

Thanks Boz! I'll keep an eye out for it! :cool: thomas cooper

Vampiric Mist Hey Boz! I hope I'm not stepping on too many toes here, but I've always loved this guy, and this is my recent workup on him. I was getting ready to throw him at my PCs soon. Please feel free to rip, tear, & shred this if you've got a better idea (I couldn't find a way to ask...