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I know what they are :p What I am saying is that they will change - thrown as they are they will be short range melee. It is after all a simple flick of the wrist not worth an AoO usable in close quarters and at a short distance but their size precludes any real range etc.

Rogue gets Five weapons - (My guesstimate) Ranged Long Range - Sling Short Range - Hand Crossbow Melee (all light blades) Best Damage - Short Sword Best Attack - Dagger Best Reach - Shuriken

I have experienced an epiphany with regards to shuriken. I think that we are not placing them correctly. When going through the list of rogue powers I notice that they have not once mentioned shuriken on their own. Since I am certain they have not excluded them from their design of the class...

In retrospect I agree with you. I think however a feat granting access to a classes powers but not the actual powers is not overpowered because you still have to expend power slots to gain the benefit of the feat.

My thoughts on this are: If our wizard takes rogue training he has access to a limited number of Rogue Class Traits eg: training in leather armour, no access to rogue class features eg: sneak attack, rogue tactics or rogue weapon talent, he will have full access to rogue class powers eg: deft...

Something I just noticed about the preview and have not seen mentioned. Sneak attack: ....when you have combat advantage against an enemy and are using a light blade, a crossbow, or a sling.... Take a little time to learn how to use a Heavy or Regular crossbow and you will have some hefty...

Started with Basic in '86? I was very young 7 or 8. In high school moved to 2nd edition. I read first but never played. Then came the drought - sadly it continues. I however bought into 3.5 about 2 years ago and plan on moving on to 4e as soon as possible.

A wave of nostalgia crashed over me at the mention of named levels..... aahh... the good ol' days. ;) Going along with thac0 - You can't forget Negative Armour Class. I know that neither of the above are in 4E but still its nice to remember. - From a recent Sage Advice: Easy to create new...

Oooohh.... I like the Warlock = Templars angle. I would love this to come to pass.

One thing that I think you need to spell out (at least for me) is which ability you are using for the modifier on the Daily/Encounter/At will attack rolls. As has been indicated in the paladin writeup on smites. To hit and damage were modified by Charisma. I would like to see which abilities are...

I think that I am in the minority here, I like the Racial Aura - I think that you forget that the power creep from magical items etc. has been retarded, I also always find it funny that people turn their noses up at a 5% increase but seem more then happy with a 10% increase - either way it is an...

Bards and leaders in general This whole discussion about Bards etc. has finally prompted me to log on and post. The way I see the Leader is the Tactician so they could call the role "tactical support" or "Tactical" for short to avoid people turning their noses up at the word support...