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"from Elvinis75 Well apparently they all agreed with him in the end and his campaign is running just fine and everything worked out just fine in the end, if his players are ok with it then why does this keep going on? Heck the only problem that happened during the game was one guy got angry...

Well after this post have at it gentlemen. Metagaming is a bad thing, IMNSHO and in the eyes of the game designers, is says so pg. 13 of DMG and it says why to. Whether or not that rule was broken is another story. Afterall I'm told that there is no wrong way to play the game. I happen to...

I just went back and read this thread again and realized the problem. Metagaming! Metagaming breaks and bends the rules all over the place. Clairsentence(sp) for everyone. Why didn't they just tell the other PCs to retreat? After all people can see things that they are not privi(sp) to why...

Please address this question I’m so shocked by the lack of consistency. At one moment we are talking about show me one place where I broke the rules. I counter, though quite a ways into the thread as I needed to wait to get to my books, pg. 121. The rules laid out for the time that it takes...

Actually Endur I did suggest just that earlier in this thread

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fusen Yeah the instant on magical armor (a say a +1 modifier to the cost) the feat that allows them to sleep in heavy armor(if you allow it). more expensive armor that uses a faster put assembly system and cut the time down to say 20 rounds 10 with help or if hasted. They would be things that...

Re: Re: caliban "No gun was being held to their heads. Going with less than optimal armor is not "completely unnaceptable" unless your a crybaby. " Somehow losing a 2 levels on every other hit makes a player a cry baby huh? Glad your not my DM. "They chose not to prepare. They set...

One thing is sure I don't like people telling me how I DM or that I'm DM (lite). Yes no one said this but it was implied that cave to help the PC out. This couldn't be further from the truth. I push them and make them face disadvantages all the time. On the other hand I do think that fusen...

caliban “They were NOT FORCED. They CHOSE to sit out. You can't say they were forced if it was their choice. It's one or the other. “ Respectfully and IMHO your wrong. Like I said before given two choices and one of those choices is completely unacceptable then it there is only one action...

Caliban, Forced to sit out of the fight is all realitive. If a PC has a belief that he can't win or that he will lose so much in the battle that it isn't worth fighting in he changes the situation. They were forced to sit out of a session for a long period of time because they made a choice...

I think that you ask what we would have done with the situation. After a while into the battle you could have had the duke haste a couple of fighters to run back and help the PCs into their armor and better yet he is evil right? He could tell them that he needs them now because their friends...

Hey guys take it easy. There was a lessen to be learned by both the DM and player alike. Find a solution to the armor over night and to keep players involved. A choice between certain doom and not playing is not a choice. It would about the same as asking a wisard to play through a session...

other stuff A couple of things that got cut where the discussing with the player options: The feat campaigner that lets players sleep in the heavy armor. Magical Armor that instantly dons. The question of why fighter get better at using their weapons but not their armor. Extra money for...

damn I just lost half of what I wrote with a bad cut and paste

Thoughts To sum up I think that the player could have been disarmed before the fight really got started by a simple sorry on your part that things turned out like they did and asking/discussing future options to avoid the problem(on group basis). At the end of each of my sessions I give a...

So nothing short of 4th level can actually make a person believe that they are taking damage. What good are first three Illusion figments? How do I use them?

Whaa!!! No more fake damage? Hmm... well that pretty much stinks. That makes it hard to make the whole creature attacking them work. Tell me again about the rabbits?!? What about a major image that looks like a fireball? No fake damage? What is the use? Tell me some cool ways to use...

Although this page gives a good description of what each of the types of illusion is possible of doing in the general sense it doesn't give good examples. Can an illusionist create a monster with silent image that attacks the opponents? What about minor image? What about major image? Can I...