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  1. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    I am not sure our friend here Jasper wasn't the one just joking, since his only response to my carefully considered post addressing his experience was to LAUGH at me. No indication what he found funny.
  2. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    I am sorry you had to experience that. No one should be demeaned or humiliated ever. No one should ever required to feel discomfort in their place or work or places of leisure. But I have to ask, how many times has this happened to you in your life? You cited an instance back in 1983. ONE...
  3. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    I agree, just poor phrasing doesn't mean you deserved an attack. But how I dress, where I go, what I say doesn't mean I deserve to be assaulted or harassed. My attitude doesn't mean I deserve to be attacked. My gender doesn't mean I deserve to be attacked. And perhaps, just perhaps, when you...
  4. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    My sense is that some good discussion has been had here, not without dissension. How much longer it continues is anyone's guess, I'll continue to follow,though my comments may be less. Before I move on I want to leave all of you with one parting thought. In defense of the good guys. I know some...
  5. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    I almost hesitate to point out, those who chose to leave the discussion because they were hurt, angry or offended, that is exactly what women do in so many social situations we feel the same in, if we can find a safe way to do so.
  6. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    You know I do understand some of the frustration some of you may be experiencing with dealing with behavior that you disagree with or makes you uncomfortable. Talking to others following this thread I know some things that are being said that are much harsher than anything Afrodyte has said...
  7. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    I think he is trying to convince you to modify the behavior that makes him uncomfortable.
  8. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    Just this. You may have noticed only THREE women have stayed with this thread. I happen to know quite a few more are following it. Like RedJen and Afrodyte, I spent time pondering whether engaging here was worth the risk, even the lesser risk of engaging online instead of face to face. And we...
  9. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    Better yet, A Comparative Guide to Feminine Hygiene Products
  10. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    When you collect them would you mind keeping a general shareable file? As I mentioned, I have only ever played RPG's online, with people I have met online, so I don't face the same level of danger in the hobby as I do in day to day life, and certainly I don't expect to ever experience what too...
  11. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    And persons with autism are also one of the vulnerable groups more likely to be subjected to harassment. Those two grandsons I mention? Yeah the 21 year old has autism, his 24 year old brother struggles with severe mental illness, and even then they have more sensitivity and awareness than so...
  12. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    An excellent summation, as well as the comment on self-policing. This is exactly what we have been doing for centuries, self-policing, our clothes, our facial expressions, our words, our choices about where we go and when, who we go with. I don't think it is too much to ask those who say they...
  13. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    Times change, terms have changed, I have noted this before. I am not getting into semantics here, I am referring to the terms that were used in women's groups and women's therapists to help women who have all ready been victimized to identify behaviors that serve as early warning signs that this...
  14. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    I stand corrected and thank you. I have been following and commenting on here for several days and after a while some of the mind numbing repetition of the same excuses jumbles stuff together. There are very few women commenting here it should be easier to remember which is which. I think there...
  15. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    Well here we are day 5 or 6 and still the discussion carries on despite some clear efforts to either derail it or get the thread shut down. Those of you complaining about Afrodyte's list need to check yourselves. What she listed are in fact what in therapeutic circles are called "red flags"...
  16. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    I had all ready suggested someone creating a full electrified body suit, if their is consent the suit is deactivated, anyone else would take a few hundred volts. Extreme possibly, but effective, and no more extreme that expecting me to be prepared to video every comment AFTER it is made. Know...
  17. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    Oh it isn't just New Orleans, I grew up and have retired back to the backwoods of Michigan. I grew up with male cousins, brothers, my dad taught all of us girls to wrestle right along with out brothers. In an earlier post I commented on those lamenting the good ole days when ya didn't have to be...
  18. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    And more than that. Harassment that another may or may not have witnessed is a gray area, not criminal until it reaches assault levels. Assault and battery is a clear crime, and if the guy is doubled over in pain, well unlike women being believed, that is clear and convincing evidence he was the...
  19. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    It is kind of nice to see this discussion has continued for over 4 days now and the thread still hasn't been shut down because of trolls trying to prevent any real discussion from happening. And though there have been more than a few absolutely cringe worthy posts, I have seen a good deal of...
  20. J

    Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done

    I do want to thank the mods, and a good many others engaged in an effort at real discussion here. I also want to apologize for giving in to the temptation for engaging with, well some days the urge to play Whack a Troll is just overwhelming. That said I have continued to follow, and earlier Jen...
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