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The PHB's in every edition since 2nd have had bards as arcane casters. That's not like to change.

That's where the concern comes up. If we look at that steed as iconic to paladins then we're harming that iconic image by giving it to not paladins earlier. Moving the cool factor from one class to another might look good on one end but not necessarily on the other. Yes, it is taking those...

Plus class features. It should be 57 plus subclass spells and spells scribed by spending money, I believe.

The current PHB describes wizards as "scholars of the arcane" and "defined and united as a class by the spells they cast". "Master of arcane" seems like an insertion that places them on a pedestal above other spellcasters that doesn't and shouldn't exist, IMO. I think you're correct that the...

I don't mind that. I agree that those spells were not OP to start with, but those spells were typically only taken by niche builds and I can see the point where an iconic ability like the paladin's steed getting snagged much earlier by a bard than a paladin can be concerning to paladin players...

Not really trying to convince so much as discuss, but in a nutshell: the level a paladin gains access to a spell is irrelevant to the level a bard gains access to a spell via secrets as far as power level is concerned. Getting access to a paladin specific spell is no more powerful than...

Same issue as Circle of Power. The bard only gets 2 choices of every spell from levels 1 thru 5 which is a very crowded choice for the player. Find Greater Steed is still just another 4th level spell among many spells that isn't significantly better than other 4th level spells in the choice...

Paladins gain access to Find Steed at 5th level. Bards might gain access to it at 10th level. A lore bard might gain access to it at 6th level. Bards don't gain access to Find Steed earlier just because of the spell progression charts. Circle of Power can be acquired significantly sooner but...

We don't know. There were very few in the past and those ended up getting added to other lists already. The question is if there are any now with the spell list changes mentioned. It is possible to make the bard spell list stop at 5th level if they just use the cleric, druid, and wizard lists...

The bard seems to be solid, after giving it some thought. I will miss Song of Rest, but I think it's still over-all an improvement with the changes to Bardic Inspiration. Magical Secrets class restrictions do not seem necessary, in my experience, but I don't think they hurt the class either...

That's an opinion. Yo. I'm here. :p I definitely prefer valor bards to swords bards.

I'd question whether they were acknowledging the perception issue or demonstrating it. It's an interesting point. 🤔

Kind of off topic but the "Aquaman problem" is not understanding Aquaman, lol.

I pointed out some basic critical thinking and referenced a long history of personal experience, which is what you had expressed when your experience isn't more valid than anyone else's. Your response seams to be a deflection regarding the critical thinking and experience, a continuation no...

Lack of repeats is what causes concern when building more effective stat spreads when adding backgrounds. It's something I thing is worthy of caution. ;-)...

We're Playing D&D; not "Rules&Reality". Just saying. Also... ACAB ;-) What evidence do you have that these are corner cases? Loaded statements where you claim the equivalents of one-offs or outliers without demonstrating such doesn't prove your point.

I never said anything about altering bards. It's unnecessary to do so. A little strawman, a little appeal to absurdity... Colorful but not really a counter point to what I said. I'm tempted to do that in game now though. 😜 The "default bard" resembles mythological bards far better now. It...

D&D creates a framework. Players make a character out of that framework. I create bards from those sources using the D&D framework and you don't have agency to change the characterization of my bards so what you seem to be saying doesn't make any sense. What characteristics do think have been...

I'm more inclined to use spells like that to manipulate battlefield safe zones than the actual damage. I'm curious if the spell blocks movement. An elemental spirit that grapples should also block space, which cloud of daggers does not. I don't think there's enough information in the spell...

I should make an artificer/bard just for sound equipment and a light show. Boombox it is. 😁