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It's really not 'my thing,' but my son (20) loved D1 and D2 and has already gathered the funds for D3. Given his powerful internet/computer gaming addiction and his incredibly high level of sophistication, that says a lot.

I'm having a roughly equivalent and equally 'emotional' response to 4E. And I, too, can't really figure out why. I've never had any difficult enjoying each new Edition of D&D for what it is ... and I've been through all of them. Is it the newness and some shallowness/limitations (that will...

Just my opinion ... but you're just hearing the results of massive disappointment. I think folks who enjoy 3p products (and created same) expected more. And they've been expecting it for a long time. They'll get over it. But don't expect a lot of folks to sign up to the GSL. There's not...

I find one thing particularly interesting about this Thread. Nobody jumped on Mr. Pramas for daring to point out a potential flaw in 4E. Instead, the commentary here has been sober, generally on point, and quite interesting. Of course, this isn't the other forum ... but I'm quite proud of...

I'm hoping that I just need more play-time. This new edition is supposed to be all about two things: "balance" and "fun." I definitely see the extreme emphasis placed on balance. It's there in spades. I'm not having the "fun" yet. Which really surprises me -- I've never had this issue with...

It's a point of policy with me to try what's new. That doesn't mean 3/3.5E has suddenly become 'bad' or 'stale.' I enjoy that game and I will continue to play it whenever I please. 4E? Of course I'll try it. If I don't like it, I'll put it aside for a few years and see if it matures into...

Agreed. I try infrequently, but the attitude of too many of the posters is very hostile and unpleasant. Yes, there is a large 'gang' of very rabid pro-4E fans (some even call themselves "4E Avengers"). The existence (and behavior) of these Avengers seems to have created a small, but very...

Bingo. There's my opinion ... to a T. Except I have no particular compulsion to vote in polls. :)

Hmm. I just don't think you're going to have to worry about that.

Can't believe I'm first to mention the Finns... Check out their mythic cycle. You'll find this 'mix' is very important.

I can live with that. I don't know them, but I've 'hung around' with you electronically for years. So ... I'm happy to do you this little favor. You can repay me with excellent 4E-compatible products. :)

Hmm. Don't need my input. The Scotsman hit my major points.

Brother, do NOT give up this feeling. The jury is still out on this, despite what you were told. It doesn't have to be doom and gloom ... the GSL text hasn't been released yet. Keep the faith. :)

Well, I think there is an actual teapot -- that would be the GSL. But since no one has actually seen it, this particular tempest is actually occurring in the mere rumor of a teapot. Voltaire would be proud. Possibly also Mr. Swift. So would I, if I wasn't seeing so much genuine upset...

It would be terribly, terribly wrong to fault either of them. They are just doing their jobs ... and keeping their families fed. They've acted very professionally and they certainly have my respect. Colleagues -- imagine yourselves in their positions. Try to have a little more understanding.

Exceptionally sound advice. It's so easy for molehills to become mountains (well, rhetorical ones, at least). I'm just a scientist (and engineer, program manager, educator/academic, .... etc.) and not a lawyer of the appropriate type. But I can recognize good advice when I hear it. It's...

In general, I agree. I see the PRPG differently. I see it as a way to please D&D players who would otherwise simply exit the game entirely ... and maybe even stop playing RPGs. While it may extend the active lifetime of 3.5E, please remember that it will also keep gamers around who might well...

You beat me to it, sir. :) There are many very intelligent people in the work-force, but very few wise people. Wisdom scores above 10 are rarer than hen's teeth, people.

...and I'm guessing there isn't. This is just a corporation playing traditional 'hard ball.' Nothing surprising here at all. It's all about control and profit. Corporations don't have friends ... just today's allies and today's competitors. Nothing personal. ;)

Interesting times. More than one active, well supported form of D&D in existence at one time. Amazing. I just can't see this as 'fracturing' our hobby. Rather, I see it as 'the more, the merrier.' [OK, we could argue about a few previous times ... and Basic v. Advanced ... but that was a...