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Yeah, you're right. Going back to the saner topic... So you claim you want to disassociate yourself and your personal views from these guys despite like eleven pages of trying to redefine rape: And yet you're fine with putting this as your status: Do you even know what a vagina looks like?

If you're looking for more...

Byron Hall? Is that you?

I think if you are looking for a deeper meaning in a Pathfinder gag and a 4chan meme you probably need some Occam's Razor all up in your business.

What kind of post count do I need before I can say this is the dumbest thread derailment yet?

I see what you're saying. Pathfinder is 3.X, only evil!

My opinion expressed in the clearest terms possible: 1E: 2E: 3E/Pathfinder: 4E: Call edition war on that.

1E 2E: 3E/Pathfinder: 4E:

1E: 2E: 3E: Pathfinder: 4E:

Naw, originally I was referencing a post about the BoEF. I don't remember anything about that book except I couldn't keep a straight face while reading it, though.

I was just talking about the idea of a book that actually has the rules laid out under some kind of "How to Rape" heading. You could probably homebrew it yourself out of existing rules in any system. I can't think of any reason to need them that isn't just weird, though.

Maybe I am just a little biased here in this thread - originally I was just saying that a book actually outlining specific rules on how to rape someone is crossing some sort of creepy line, so followup comments arguing that rape as a thing should be included in a game are extra weird to me...

Personally, if my DM ever had my character raped, I would probably not think "This roleplaying game sure is deep and realistic." Violence is fine in the right amount but there are better things to brag about. Like anything.

That is fine too! I was just talking about needing actual rules for that kind of grapple check, not whether rape should be included as a story mechanic. The other replies I got that didn't see a difference are actually getting kind of weird. V very weird.

I don't know what you put on your character background charts, but I ever decided rape would be fun to put in a game there would be a very clear difference between a chart to help you decide what major events influenced your dwarf bard as he grew up and rules to help him rape the barmaid.

I am just having trouble imagining who would need to roll a die and consult a rape chart. Or want to, really.

I have that book lying around somewhere. I am pretty sure it did not fill any raping niches, but then I have not committed it to memory.

I am trying to imagine a game which actually needs rape rules. Actually, wait. I'm trying not to.

I personally approve of any houserule which enforces real-world gender differences for realism purposes in a game where elves shoot magic at flying lizards that can be explained to a Women's Studies class with a straight face.