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Yes, I see. Thanks so then a true strike scroll is not actually used for anything, if you already know the spell? (No additional material components needed, no spell slots needed, recipe in head so not needed. So how would a useless scroll make it faster? Nothing has changed vs just casting it...

It is a tough job to describe something succinctly and have it mean everything you want. They can't just list the stuff that it can't do and have the text be easy to read. Some of the current positions can be used to create cases that many would consider abusive. For example: Scroll of the...

I read though the new magic item information from the DMG. The way it is presented, it seems to only reinforce the core definition of a magic action: "When you take the Magic action, you cast a spell that has a casting time of an action or use a feature/magic item that requires a Magic action to...

Cool, do you have the quote? What I am reading on D&D beyond does not use those words: "Casting the spell by reading the scroll requires the spell’s normal casting time. Once the spell is cast, the scroll crumbles to dust. If the casting is interrupted, the scroll isn’t lost." (ah, so if...

If you want to really read as RAW: reading is not "using it" .. I read newspapers, dogs use newpapers. I read bathroom doors, I only use them if the gender matches. But expanding to the whole phrase: use a magic item that requires that action. A scroll lets you cast a spell. The scroll does not...

I think we can all agree that the rule is complex. In making the associated text concise, they made it confusing. My belief is they tried to make it simple on the surface: just look for "as a magical action" in the item, that tells you it works. But they also defined a deeper methodology for...

This is exactly right. And we should be able to find an example where B => A is clearly not intended. Once again, the precise words: RAW: [use a bonus action to] Take the magic action to use a magic item that requires that action. (granted, this phrase is awkward) Crawford/Intent: "The...

This is about understanding the rules and finding a balance for fun. House ruing to make something more powerful is usually never the right way. The dm should just explicitly balance it. Given that people have seen the DM but we really don't know much more. I'd really like to see the...

These the facts that I am using to make my opinion about intent: quote from Crawford's youtube video: "The thief will be able to take a magic item that requires a magic action for activation and thanks to fast hands, activate it as a bonus action." The bolded text is different than the PHB and...

Seeing the wording of the “enspelled” weapons confirms my fears that players will not be able to craft weapons that have abilities that can be used with fast hands. These items don’t have powers that activate upon usage, they only enable the user to meet the requirements needed to cast a spell...

As a summary (so we don't have page of repeated statements), I’ll try to break down the arguments {for} and {against} having “fast hands” work with scrolls. I'll try to be fair and represent, but we all have bias) First, these are the rules as written: * Beginning in 2024, Magic [action] is...

Reread scroll. How is this different? It is not. A spellbook focus is read. Scroll is read. You are telling me that both these items have you use your action to cast a spell and it affects the casting. A Spell Scroll (Cantrip) or Spell Scroll (Level 1) is a magic item that bears the words of a...

If you are going to read scroll as qualifying for Fast Hand .. why bother with scrolls? Just use something similar to Arcane Grimoires from Tasha (uncommon item). Don't need to bother creating/buying scroll. Just get 2 spells a round. (no, not broken, really....) An Arcane Grimoires +1 is a...

I'm pretty sure banana is right: each magic item will have a way to specify it if works with fast hands or not. And as UngeheuerLIch points out: fast hands has been problematic in previous version... so you know they are going to be careful. I suspect they thought they went too far with 2014 and...

This ^ is exactly the key. A normal spell focus should not work for fast hands because it is part of casting the spell, not an activation. The scroll text HAS been change to this as well. A scroll is now used as part of the casting of a spell, not "activated". A scroll replaces the "preparation...

How about this one? "glowing focus" This magic item gives a faint green flow, visible up to 1 foot away. When this magical item is used as part of a casting a spell, it can be used in place of the spell's material components (if they are not normally consumed by the spell and don't have a cost...

Say you have an magic item with 10 charges. When you expend a charge, any spell you cast will give you +2 to your spell DC. You are saying that because it it an item and you use it during your magic action ... that a Fast Hands Rogue should be able to use it to cast a 1 action spell as a bonus...

2014 scroll: " If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any material components. Otherwise, the scroll is unintelligible. Casting the spell by reading the scroll requires the spell’s normal casting time." 2024 scroll: "If the spell...

The action associated with a reading a "casting time=action" scroll is: Magical action [cast spell] - the scroll makes this possible and is destroyed in the process. As written, some 2024 items upfront state that a magic action is required for activation, some 2024 do not state that a magic...

Lets hope that 2024 wands resemble the 2014 descriptions: "While holding it, you can use an action to expend 1 or more of its charges to cast the fireball spell." It it changes to this, we are OK: "While holding it, as a magic action, you can expend 1 or more charges to cast the fireball...