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son of ***** ... just when the issue was settling down. :mad: personally, i'd go with the one free 5' step per round interpretation. even hasted, you could only really get two 5' steps, the second of which could possibly provoke an aoo. (imo, the whole movement/action/aoo interaction is a bit...

move along... move along...

uuuuuhhhhhhh........ i think you're taking the word "ignore" waaaay too far. how can you claim that ignoring someone is worse than not even knowing they're there? my buddy goes invisible before entering my house. i'm sitting here, typing away, completely oblivious to his presence. he walks up...

basically ... a standard action minus a move/mea equals a partial action ... but ... a partial action plus a move/mea does not equal a standard action as was said earlier, 99% of the time there is no difference. but yes, it's bad math. :) one thing i hope they do in 4e is handle the breakdown...

what are you talking about? i mean, a mass spell feat would have to have a fairly large level increase involved. i'd say at least +4 levels. that would mean harm would require at least a 10th level spell slot to to make it a mass spell.

i'm just gonna chime in here and say that my previous post is in relation to the rules as they were "clarified" by the sage (i believe). the official faq seems to support this method, too. however, i do agree that it is not in line with the rules as presented in the phb (and apparently oriental...

guh! i wish the old boards were still available, because this issue has been discussed about 40 times over there. bab does not stack with ubab at all. here's an exerpt from wotc's faq. it's somewhat relevant: using hong's examples ... mnk4/ftr2 armed: +5 unarmed: +3 (monk ubab) or +5...

well, couldn't you also argue that that multiclassing a fighter sucks? or multiclassing a wizard sucks? why is it the multiclassed druid that sucks? :) honestly, a ftr/wiz/drd looks like a bad combo ... multiclass more than two classes and and you're looking for trouble. [ off-topic: man ...