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So are you still sticking with the idea in IH: A and IH: B that Sammael was the guy who led the angelic rebellion, Satan is the ruler of the dimension of Matter, and Lucifer is an aspect of Satan, or a different plan?

Hey UK, thanks for the quick responses... well, that seems far more reasonable, I was really quite frustrated with not being able to figure out the CR vs the two sets of abominations.

I really don't get this... are you saying we'd apply the V6 factor to both the IH:B challenge ratings and the revised V5 challenge ratings, or what? I don't see any way that this would result in the amilicti still being of lower CR than the xixecal, when the amilicti at least seems to be...

The bit about turning people into antimatter without their knowledge greatly amuses me. As to negative dimensions comprised of antimatter inhabited by "negatively existent un-beings that can only be guessed at," it sounds quite cool, though a bit hard to fathom how you'd get beings more...

True, I'm less worried about a First One spending all his divine ability slots to get Transmute so he can make limitless Orichalcum, and more worried about the ability to mass produce Neutronium and Antimatter... I seem to recall someone saying that Imperial Star Destroyers from Star Wars could...

The question wasn't actually relevant to my campaign, more along the lines of finding out whether Divine Rank 24 is going to be the cap for most campaigns or not... which is still pretty damn high. I'd say its great stuff even for non-power tripping characters, as it really does have something...

The question wasn't actually relevant to my campaign, more along the lines of finding out whether Divine Rank 24 is going to be the cap for most campaigns or not... which is still pretty damn high. I'd say its great stuff even for non-power tripping characters, as it really does have something...

Well, it just bothers me that the IH abominations are around CR 30-40, and that, per the v5 pdf (is the v6 one out?) as well as per these revisions, the "original flavor" abominations are around TWICE the new one's challenge ratings. v5 puts the regular xixecal as CR 70 or so... which is a bit...

This is relevant to my interests, since I want teh lower planes in my campaign to be more about a dumping ground for abominations (and other divine yet unwanted beings) and want some better stats for them... are you going to do the IH:B ones as well, or do you think they're good?

Transmute is a weird one, seems as problematic to handle as time travel in some regards. Should it be taken to let you even make orichalcum, neutronium, and antimatter?

Kyriotates are pretty good, actually, thanks to their Blessed Robes of Hax... they can't be directly attacked (or even harmed, not sure) unless provoked. So that ensures they cannot be scry & died, they cannot be pounce charged with surprise, etc. I did like those abominations, and might use...

Hey UK! In core 3.5, it notes that you can apply advancement to a golem at the rate of 5000 GP per HD (whether its a flesh, iron, ironwyrm, whatever) and something like 20000 or 50000 per size category. This is adjustment to the MARKET PRICE, so even still, a typical wizard will probably be able...

Yeah, it states to add +1 EL for an optimized party, and +2 EL for a "shamelessly minmaxed party that takes every advantage of the rules," which would be one of those builds that involves 4-7 classes by level 20. The CRs in there are a bit strange, especially when compared to UK's analysis of...

Hmmmm... fair enough, I don't know if you've seen the Core RAW-legit triple iron golems in play but they're pretty abhorrent. Anywho, thanks for your time.

This may sound like edition wars... it isn't. I greatly enjoy both running 3e and playing 4e. However, I gotta ask... is it really possible that 4th edition IH stuff will be able to be as enjoyable as 3e? Here's the reason I ask. 4e has epic rules for playable demigods and gods as opponents...

Don't forget gods of pestilence! Its not for everyone, and in fact, its not for anyone who doesn't have a huge amount of druid levels. It is kind of interesting that there are basically two "paths" for druids, one is by abusing the hell out of chimerical, metamorph, etc. etc. and another is by...

A character can be reasonably rated on whether he can deal with enemies of a similar CR or not, I assume? The point is that there's a way to build gods of magic that lets them be competitive at epic levels besides hitting enemies with Force Touch, and that there are ways other than massive power...

re: Casters in IH rules Actually, after doing some of the math, I definitely stand by the perspective that spellcasters in the IH ruleset absolutely rock. Its been stated that "minimum hit dice" for various divine templates are a DM's reference, not that a PC who's been farming apertures and...

Ahhh, thanks. So do you think constructs (as opposed to divine manifestations that exhibit construct traits) should be capped at 998 HD or just left as is? Also, should clerical turning/rebuking use ECL as well? The bit on caster level being based on ECL was hinted at in that creatures with...

Oh yeah, and swarm traits is an ability that even "mere" gods can obtain to make themselves immune to regular hand to hand attacks as well.