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Do we know how many pages this is. Eberron spoiled us with its 320 something pages.

Where were those damn titans. They looked sick.

Well. Tritons were created under immense pressure.

The Theros leonin exists. These are not meant to be those. Inverted commas have been used in a subsequent post.

Not meant to represent lions. But what they symbolize. More people should use variant skill checks.

Advice has been taken on board. I have edited the OP. With -> BEST LEONIN Ability Scores: Cha +1, Str +1, Wis +1 Other racial features remain. Claws: Slashing damage equal to 1d4 + your Strength modifier.

Mythic Odysseys of the Eros does not have the same ring to it. Now Mythic Odysseys of the Heroes. A worthy alternate book title.

Here is where creativity lies. Where different visions lie. I am all for that.

Never had that issue. Truth be told.

This is why we cannot have nice things!

Symbolism is there to serve as creative inspiration. Troubling aspects should not be incorporated. This should not be spelt out to you. But do whatever you feel like.

Wes Schneider is a lead designer on this book. He was a principal designer of Pathfinder. Might have something to do with it.

When someone has already made up their mind. Convincing them otherwise is regretfully difficult.

Clearly not the symbolism people are talking about. The lion in cultural symbolism. Look that up.

Lions could represent all of that. In fact. You could give them Cha +1, Str +1, Wis +1. As another take.

Irrelevant. Show me where I said these replace the Theros leonin. Fits in better with the lion symbology. Races are not "balanced" in 5e. Remember. Okay. Great.

And these are "better" leonin. From non restrictive canon. Also that is a can get. A might get. Not an assured get. Playing with the feat cannot be assumed. Not saying races have to be balanced. I am saying the saytr gets a lot.

Even in Magic there are differences. Seems satyrs are damn OP.

That full-size preview has a sample of 106 pages. So less of a cash grab. There is some good stuff there.

Okay for Magic. Silly for any other concept of a lion humanoid. And goes against what lions symbolize. Canon should not be restrictive. The real problem is D&D has too many Str and Con races.