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  1. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    I, and numerous people I've known in my lifetime, behave in certain ways during storms to make the likelihood that lightning does strike us as low as we can... so, not really sure what point you are actually making unless it can be summed up as "different people have different levels of caution...
  2. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    Just have to point out, that's not what happened in the scenario presented. The character was tending the fire, and already had a fiery log in hand as a result. Interesting thing, that, how so many of the statements that suggest something hinky is going on with the way I was playing my...
  3. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    Yeah, a pattern could show bad faith play as being the reason behind what in a single incident would appear nothing more than harmless role-play. Where we differ seems to be that I consider us discussing a single instance as us discussing a single instance, and you stretch it out to being about...
  4. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    It is, and I'm not engaging you in a semantic argument, so this will be my last post regarding traps that interacts with you.
  5. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    No, and that's not at all relevant because A) my character also didn't know the monster in question wasn't an ogre, B) we established earlier that you agree with me that knowing that trolls have a weakness to fire isn't actually necessary in order to decide to attack an unknown-to-you monster...
  6. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    You know how I felt when that DM shut down my role-playing of my fighter and told me it was "metagaming"? I felt like my immersion into my character had just been smashed with a hammer. Because I was thinking "what would my character do in this situation given what he knows?" and the DM started...
  7. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    No one said they were, Max, stop making mischaracterizing implications. Semantics. In my not so humble opinion, resource drains that are not actually challenges themselves are not a valuable inclusion in a gaming experience. Might as well just arbitrate what resources you want your players'...
  8. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    I want to start by apologizing both for the length of this post, and for any misattributed quotes that it may contain. I am making this a single post via the multi-quote function of the forum to ensure that I don't miss any comments that I wished to address, and am doing my best to keep the...
  9. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    That is exactly what the scenario was, and I was not unclear it stating it. And yet, you seem believe that I was doing something that you would in fact have a problem with. That I haven't done it before isn't relevant, considering that I've never been attacked while tending a fire before so...
  10. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    Yes, exactly. I was just role-playing. But that DM, and at least one poster on this forum I've presented the scenario to, that are looking for metagaming expecting to find it believe they have found it in my actions - even though the character performing the same action I chose to while being...
  11. AaronOfBarbaria

    Are you a problem player and if yes why?

    Nah, I've known more than a handful of non-bad players. As for whether I am a bad player or not... I don't think so. The only problems that arise at the table as a result of my inclusion as a player are if the DM feels like they have to do something special or work harder because they have a DM...
  12. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    I do not have, nor have I ever expressed, that viewpoint. Every RPG I've ever read assume in its writing that it is the absolute first exposure a person is going to have to role-playing games in general. That's why they all include the intro section that says describes what a role-playing is and...
  13. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    Saying what the character said does not require knowing anything about what is going on. I do understand the concept. If I didn't, I'd likely have fallen into the same trap as so many others that keep looking at information "above or outside the knowledge and traits that your character would...
  14. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) DM forgets to mention and describe a plot point, how should that be addressed?(Storm King's Thunder:possible minor spoilers)

    As a DM that always admits errors I make, regardless of the players noticing them without me pointing them out or not, I can say that this is entirely untrue. Players will only second guess you if you appear to need to be second guessed, which is not necessarily the case if you appear to be open...
  15. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    That's not exactly where I was going, but I do agree with it. My main goal when discussing the older definition of metagaming is to highlight that, more often than not in my experience, people that are concerned about it happening are actually causing it to happen more often than they stop it...
  16. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    I'll close with saying that I think this is a case of finding something only because you were looking for it - by which I mean this particular example, and others along the same lines, wouldn't seem like playing in bad faith if you weren't already, for lack of a better phrase, on high alert...
  17. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    How often you've seen an event happen doesn't actually affect the odds of it happening. For example, while you've never seen a pre-emptive and "just in case" casting of water breathing, I've seen multiple. And while I've never bit spit on by a camel, that doesn't affect the odds of whether...
  18. AaronOfBarbaria

    What level do you like your tabletop RPGs to allow you to achieve?

    I don't particularly care what number of levels a game has. What I do care about is how long the game will tolerate the same group of characters being played and having at least some sense of mechanical progression. And I like for games to allow for my group to play the same characters for...
  19. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) How to deal with Metagaming as a player?

    At this point it is clear you attempting to "win" rather than to have a productive discussion. So rather than do something like arbitrarily insist your evidence isn't actually evidence like you've done, I'm just going to say this: Stay classy, Max. I'm out.
  20. AaronOfBarbaria

    D&D 5E (2014) DM forgets to mention and describe a plot point, how should that be addressed?(Storm King's Thunder:possible minor spoilers)

    Here is what I would do as a DM: Admit my error, apologize for not realizing it sooner (note: the apology is not because I feel the DM actually owes an apology, but because "Oops, sorry about that" has a preferable impact when compared to "Oops."), and work together with my group to determine...
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