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Agree, but I'm not surprised and don't have time and energy for endless and pointless arguments here too, so I'd say to everybody: download the stuff, read it and make your own decision about it. You might think it's too much, you might think it's okay, or horrible, or the beginning of the new...

Thanks! The goal in my head is keeping things dirty simple, while providing options for tactical depth and some reality. I feel that simple addition could do both (and combat oriented characters won1t kill you just by defending...). Agree.

I did HEMA for 6-ish years. It's not the same at all. Having different skills for non weapon/weapon based fighting and firearms is the minimum level of realism I want from a game. Dodging in combat isn't the same as general athletics, but I'm okay with both versions. Always preferred nature...

I liked the old health chart, but this NWoD way is also okay and has it's own merits. I do hope they will do merits more akin to how they worked in NWoD, because that was one of the parts I liked there more, though I generally prefer CWoD. I'm not, but it's a big world. Agree and I already...

Ugh. See, that's how different we are, really. I wouldn't want any of the things you do and I actually hope things will get more complex and detailed in later playtests. It's just too much simplification to my tastes, but it's an okay start.

Emphasis added. Yeah, that's the thing. NWoD distanced itself from the real world and there are a lot of people who like that style better. However, there are a lot of people, who as you put it "want something more real-world-ey", like me. I think that was always an important part of WoD, the...

Thanks for the clarification! I suspect they'll do some supplements at least. The main thing is, the new editions' publication (at least Vampire's) won't happen through Onyx Path as a licenced product, as the 20ths happened.

Yes, the 20th is officially the "4th edition" now. No. They are completely separate games, separate universes, separate (although familiar) rule systems. They're coexist now and will coexist in the future. OPP does CofD and the 20ths to the point where the new edition will come out then the...

1. They decided to use WoD, not NWoD/CofD and had comments about that the latter didn't sell as much as the former. NWoD fans didn't like that. 2. They said they won't shy away using real-world events and other phenomenon in the game. For some people that's too "edgy" and they just basically...

In other words, yes, OWoD is back and has been over 5ish years and OWoD and NWoD (now CofD) are existing in tandem since that. Honestly, I understand the whole story is like a bad soap opera and I understand not die-hard fans being confused, but man, it's getting trying, explaining it every...

You're welcome. :) It's really a disaster, in hindsight and the WW and OP guys are still explaining to everyone what happened and who is doing what. :D Beckett's Jyhad Diary is still in the works, but it'll be out soon. It was a huge kickstarter success. It turned out, people still love their...

Sigh... I understand your confusion, welcome to the wonderful clusterf*ck soap opera, which is woD's publication history since the early 2000's... Anyway, I'll try to encompass it into something short. The story goes like that: 1. The old WoD setting and rules system ended in 2004. They did...

Ok, so: NWoD has nothing to do with CWoD. They're completely separate game lines. The 20ths were anniversary products with a metaplot-agnostic approach. V5 and all the new editions will continue the metaplot, the concept will be: - Up to Revised, everything is canon, but not necessarily...

Since, all the 20ths will be stopped getting more supplements the time they get their new editions (so no more V20 books after V5) and since people generally like new things and updated metaplot, I think V5 will be the definitive unless they're messing it up big time and alienating much of the...

"Not storyteller" means, as long as I understood it, that significant things will change, like it will be a fixed target number and there will be new mechanics. For example a new hunger mechanic will replace the old blood pool. Otherwise it'll be still d10 dice pool-based (thanks for all the...

Yeah, thought the same. I'd add that not every rpg need to have mass appeal and that's still not true, since fairly complex games are quite popular, while there are plenty of really obscure minimalist games. It's just not that simple as "people don't want complex games in this rushing world".

Yes, you could sell a less complex game to more people, because new or casual gamers tend to favor them. Still, a lot of people want more depth and complexity, enough that those games are still viable for business. There's also a migration from the first group to the second and also there are...

Mostly agree with the article, especially with the part about the rules. I think nowadays, with all the super rules-light narrative games on the palette some people, who prefer those (or NWod/CofD) tend to oversell how crunchy WoD is. It really isn't, it's medium-crunch at best. Also, while I...

I actually have two favorites both in crpgs and in tabletop: - my old-time loves are sneaky, exploring characters, mostly rangers (yeah, blame my 12 old self and Drizzt), or rogues, if the game is urban-heavy. I like wits, smart solutions and dex-based fighting in general. - in the past...

As someone living in a post-communist nation (Hungary) and feeling every day it's impact on the society and also reading about it a considerable amount for that reason, my opinion is that Americans and Western Europeans, no offense, but sometimes have a very-very weird romantic picture about...