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You're just repeating what I've said upthread, but you don't see the irony. You're saying "Well a guy who goes jogging twice a week and drinks a protein shake before he does and Joe Rogan out of his mind of HGH and ayahuasca are basically engaging in the same activity!". It's pretty funny to me...

What? So there's no difference between someone who makes a completely rules-legal and non-broken character, and someone who is intentionally trying to break the game and make the entire game about them? Seriously? This directly contradicts your previous point. And also, more to the point...

I think if there's one thing we can agree on re: 4E is that it made a lot of errors or misjudgements in how it presented stuff which lead to a lot more hate than the mechanics alone would have generated. I mean, one of the first things we learned saw about 4E was a video advert for it put out...

This reflects my experience as well. As a kid, I certainly had issues with people building ridiculous overpowered characters and wrecking the game that way, but for every one of those cause absolute chaos (rather than being somewhat annoying), I saw adventures and even a couple of entire...

Do you need me to define them for every class in 5E? In every RPG? In D&D most classes have one "correct" primary stat that only weird builds (usually of the precise type this thread is decrying!) involving Feats or multiclassing might change - a few have a choice of two. I think this is an...

No, but I think you're in danger of going that way if we say "Oh that's why people do it and it's totally legit to use optimizer as a generic pejorative because of that". You didn't reach that point AFAIK. That's why I said "Let's not" rather than "You are". It would be ahistorical though to...

Yes. This is why games where optimization is barely a viable thing (like default CoC) or where the range of potential optimization is quite constrained (especially if multiclassing is disallowed) like D&D 5E are quite helpful, because it stops people going into spaces where they're going to...

No, that's Monty Haul you're describing. And it's a pretty precise description of Monty Haul too! Literally you've nailed all the major elements of "Monty Haul DMing", going beyond the original meaning of "giving out too much XP and too many magic items" into what it actually tended to turn...

Sure, but that's ahistorical. Munchkin and the like were terms still in use in that era, and absolutely no-one old enough to remember 3.5E CharOp is under the illusion that optimization or optimizer means the same thing as whatever was happening with Pun Pun. So let's not start revising history...

I think if you intentionally use a term that has a relevant meaning that's not the way you're using it, you are probably either not a good communicator or acting in bad faith and trying to cause a problem. Specifically, trying to redefine "optimizer", a word which already has a clear and...

Correct, that is what I was thinking of!

This is nice and all but words still have meaning, and optimizing means optimizing and optimizers means people who optimize their characters, not just people at the very most extreme edge of rules-exploits. So it's not really okay to decry "optimization" per se, I'm sorry, but it's not. At best...

I have to admit when I thought who "should" do the next Bond theme Kendrick Lamar absolutely immediately appeared front and center in my mind. Like he has that particular hotness. I don't know if they'd dare do a rapper but I feel like he could pull it off.

Oh yes checking now, good reminder. Looks like if you're Large Giant (you can also be an non-Large one) you are 500lbs + 2d8 x 2d12 so a maximum of 884lbs And a small spryte Faen is 10lbs + 1d3 x 1 so as low as 13lbs. So a factor of 68! Very similar to but not quite as nice as 69 with...

It's surprisingly hard to say based on recent choices, which have been kind of all over the place and surprisingly modern. I wouldn't expect Amazon to change that. Most recent was Billie Eilish. Chapelle Roan, because she can actually sing and could do the right general "sort" of song would be...

He's definitely going to be able to pull of the "2 hour long luxury watch advert aimed at your dad" (or rather, I guess we are the dads now, age-wise lol) aspect of Bond movies, which has solidified since the Brosnan era.

Hasn't it? It sure has for me, well or rather I started checking my phone (I don't fall asleep in movies) I'm British. I was raised on Bond movies. I disliked the MI TV series (albeit I didn't see a whole lot of it, unlike the Man from UNCLE). I would say Craig's Bond movies are just flatly...

Is it?! Genuine question, because it sounds exactly right to me, but maybe I'm missing something? D&D has odd number of odd tropes that don't really appear as much in general fantasy, and I know from long experience that a lot of D&D players don't know or understand that these tropes are not...

Specifically it was to break out a conversation which was essentially: "All optimizers are depraved monsters who seek nothing more than the destruction of your game!" vs "No they aren't" If that's even possible, without any exploits or rules-loopholes (and the six attacks are each as effective...

Distinction without a difference. But again this is you telling us about you and your frustrated expectations rather than anything else. Which is fine, but like, "should in my opinion" is not really the same as "They're screwing this up!". I don't think it's uncommon among a tiny number of us...