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As someone who resembles the Gith, I find this offensive. C'mon. It's so much easier to type "6e." I bet the Dark Souls RPG used this excuse too.

"I see friends shaking hands, sayin' 'how do you do?' They're really saying, 'I love you.'" 50.3% yea 41.7% nay I should have recorded the earlier results. It would be interesting if Undecideds were swayed by one page or another . . . but I doubt any of the poll responses changed 🤓

Isn't there some rule about all threads devolving into Alignment arguments if they go on long enough? Max should play some Modos 2. It has no Help action, no dim light rule, and no Disadvantage to worry about. (Speaking of devolving threads . . . )

Yeah, D&D, in its noble quest to achieve maximum sales revenue, went beyond generic-fantasy-game. Now it's D&D-fantasy-game, which includes a lot, but it also permits a lot. So Frodo's gardener can be a Tiefling Warlock now. Generic-fantasy-game (whichever that might be) should set the bar...

I know. But the day often comes when I have coffee needs from others. Wow, "cross-class skills." That's a can of worms. Besides supporting the existence of a class that draws its identity from the skill-system (ahem, rogue), there's not a very good argument for those. I think I got rid of...

Sounds like you need to start a thread. "D&D: Can you help me see?" A more pertinent question is: is dungeon crawling better with a spotter, even if neither has darkvision? Or, if the bard has darkvision and we don't, should we be nice to her while we're down here? I'm getting anxious just...

Just accept that fighter attacks get special features now. Besides that, it's the same game on steroids.

I've watched some Elden Ring. I don't remember a lot of vision-problems. I seem to remember Witcher 3 and Dragon's Dogma using darkness to better effect.

The thing is, darkness should be the name of the game in dungeon-crawling. The only darker thing should be cave-crawling, but who goes cave-crawling? Anyway, those are all good vision-obstructing examples, but they can, and should, happen anywhere. Above ground. Giving everyone darkvision...

Just "endured?" Yeah, I guess. But Shadowdark players will understand. Is two PCs making a roll so different from one PC making two rolls?

And I'm always happy to share. Unless it's coffee. That I share grudgingly.

This was a project for me! I started off with simple stuff, like Roll damage at the same time as attack, just in case. Rope Use is included with any other rope-adjacent skill. But that didn't cut it. There was bloat to trim like prestige classes, warlocks, Incarnum. Too many action types...

Good post, but I don't think Middle Earth and medieval Europe shared a restauranteur's guild. Bolivia, maybe.

"Stairs trap." "Alex, what was 'third edition?'" An obvious trap was either made by a novice trapmaker, or a conniving bard. If the PC rogue tells me, "I search for traps. Don't worry: expertise. I got 24. That's fire," my reply might be, "do you feel around for loose panels?" "Ew, no...

@Steampunkette made an interesting case for tacos in the other post . . . Well, you wouldn't want to eat with one of those hands unless toilet paper had been invented. But this is in the D&D forum. So, I'll use my pet water elemental as a bidet. Then I'm off to my kitchen to get the week-old...

A little off track here, but we could say that darkvision ruins the Help action too. Alba: psst. Give me a hand over here. Brohq: Who said that? Alba: Me, genius. Now get over here. Brohq: Where's here? Alba: I thought you were a "scout." Just follow my voice. Brohq: Just because you can...

I might try scribbling on dead trees and passing that around. It works for GMing.

Yorick sounds like Marvin, the paranoid bard-droid.

I'd just like to mention, to those bards who are offended by Snarf's hate speech, that there are RPGs that have risen above and beyond the labels of character classes - and all are welcome there.

I'll keep using my 3rd ed MM if d20srd.org doesn't cut it.