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Truthfully, I don't care how many playstyles a game covers, or supports, or whatever verb/s you want, so long as it covers the one I'm trying to do at the moment, and the situation/s that have emerged. I've had PCs in my D&D 5e games solve a murder mystery, and resolve a labor dispute, and...

Sorry to reply a bunch of pages later, my morning and this thread both kinda got away from me. Since you cropped my original post so severely, I'm going to drop the whole thing here: Also, reposting it preserves some context--it has been a few pages ... :LOL: Obviously there's no point in...

It's only a tornado if it's from the Tornado Region of the American Plains. Otherwise it's just a sparkling windstorm.

The decision "what makes sense here" can include anything. Some GMs will try to answer that based on calculations based on decades of studying pre-industrial societies and economies. Other GMs will respond based on what makes the best story, which could be the thematics of the campaign or the...

Some of those are things I'd allow in my games, others are things that I wouldn't do in 5e but might in other rulesets, some are things that wouldn't work in my current setting, at least one of those is a thing that I actively do. But our priorities are wildly different, we say. :LOL:

I've not only played in TRPGs where that could have made sense, I've played a character it could have made sense to have do it. It seem wildly unlikely to make sense in any D&D game I've been in or around, of course.

Actually it's because so many of the movies were made by people who didn't understand the novels and/or the difference between the needs of novels and movies. This plausibly includes the director of Maximum Overdrive. :LOL:

"Makes sense," like "improbable" or "nonsense," is going to be very much in the eye of the beholder, innit? I mean, as well as context mattering and all-a-that: In a game where, for instance, Fate (not the game) is a theme, all sorts of coincidences seem plausible and appropriate.

Seems like a longer way to say, "Here. Hold my beer."

I don't particularly disagree. Knowing and using the rules of the game doesn't seem to conflict with that preference. (Knowing monster stats, or the expectations a given adventure has, isn't in my books "knowing the rules," though at least the former doesn't have to be bad.)

I guess to me their concerns are about metafiction, not about metagame. Knowing (and using) the rules of the game when you're playing a game seems entirely unobjectionable to me, and my experience is that doing so makes for better stories on the output side as well as more-enjoyable play (in the...

Any engineer knows you can get close enough for all practical purposes ...

Take your misunderstandings of infamous philosophers and self-insert them, sideways.

Not to mention (non-auto) biographies written while the subjects are alive. Often after the subject has faded from relevance, yes, but not dead.

I think the best case is the story's an output, not an input. Different people will, of course, prioritize that output differently. For me it's practically the point, for you ... not so much.

You're welcome. There was--or at least seemed to be--a lot of research into that period of comics. I didn't get all of it, but not getting it didn't feel to me as though it damaged my enjoyment. If you find it (my local library of choice carries it) I hope you enjoy it.

I'm pretty sure I didn't say there weren't differences between the games, and it seems at least difficult (if not impossible) to dispute that some of those differences as one moves from older to newer games are about making the characters more durable, especially at lower levels. That doesn't...

Read an interesting mystery novel set in the comics biz in the 1970s, it might or might not interest you:

Oh we did a reasonable amount of fighting, and our share of screwing up the setting, and not really all that much politics--I do not remember them as "political games," at any rate. In running my 5e games I am very much taking those 1e games as my model, or at least the foundation of my model.