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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Uh, you can link or post them here, because saying "They're in another thread" is incredibly unhelpful and obtuse when trying to have a discussion with someone. Pfft, you clearly haven't read Victor Davis Hanson! :ROFLMAO: It absolutely does. You can disagree all you want, but this is...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Okay, but the stuff on X comes as a response to people getting outraged for them putting in a disclaimer. It's meant to show why they put in a disclaimer. I would get people giving a little bit of pushback if Riggs just seemingly did this out of nowhere, but it definitely wasn't out of nowhere...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Yeah, Gygax making his commentary kind of reminds me of this in regards to the whole Tiamat thing.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    It definitely was to conservatives at the time, though. They mobilized rather hard against it. The ERA was big politics and a big clash, and trying to minimize it in this fashion is disingenuous. What? No, it's because the state's politics evolved over time. Strongholds were absolutely...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Well, "some" might be understating it a bit, but I think we should probably move beyond looking him as fans and more towards him a historical figure: the former is what creates these backlashes, while the latter allows us to look at his flaws and understand him and his work as a person.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    I'm sorry, but you continue to avoid my question and haven't actually told me what in the book falls under the idea of "visceral, inexplicable need to pass judgement" other than putting in a disclaimer. This whole thing reads as a deflection without any sort of proof, and given that you've done...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    $100 is a lot of money. I might buy it, as I've bought all the Designers & Dragons books in PDF, but it might be in the future.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    So was I, but you leapt over what I said: there's nothing there that is being called out that is more significant than what, say, Riggs is doing. There's nothing to indicate as such and it seems they floated a rather nice, uncontroversial disclaimer that is currently getting blown up. Also you...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    That's a bad excuse. Gary's views seem more than a bit beyond that. But moreover, a lot of people changed with time while Gary did not; just look at some of those quotes from the mid-2000's. All these arguments about how someone was "born of a time" miss that people also can change, often with...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    I wasn't making a joke about child labor, I was making a comparison about how you were continually removing context from @Charlaquin stuff and laughing at how you do it. But again, you seem to like to remove context to favor your own interpretation. Might want to check those biases you're so...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Parasocial relationships are a helluva thing.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    You first, bud! ;) I think there are a lot of things both in the piece and stuff that has been posted in this thread by other users which makes things less "multifaceted" and more obvious. A weaker example does not hinder anything if it is supported by other things. In this case, he is...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    I think Riggs starts with the Tiamat one because it works well as a lead-in: it's something that is easy to decontextualize, but becomes clearer as more and more is heaped on. Just making the evil dragon god female and the good dragon god male isn't necessarily anything... but it becomes more...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Yeah, but that's basically the definition of "nitpicking": you're removing something from the whole to show it's weakness on its own when it was presented and meant to be shown in conjunction with something else. Yes, it would be a little weaker on its own, but it's not on its own nor is it...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    But it's not the only example. Riggs gives multiple ones. It's part of a body of evidence. It need not support the entire argument because it was never meant to.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Uh, simple, a bunch of people who came in here for the sole purpose of asking "Who cares" in a massive paragraph. If you didn't care, you wouldn't post. I also care because apparently there are a bunch of people who want Gary's history to be a hagiography that putting out what he did wrong is...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    The Tiamat one is in conjunction with his own remarks on it. You can't bring that up without bringing up the "Women's Lib" comment, and you are really showing off you own biases without it.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    I mean, I'll point out that even then his views seemed beyond the norm and would (and did) stand out. Trying to dismiss them because it was a previous era misses that he didn't seem to change at all with age. Again, I don't understand why people see the need to defend someone who has a...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Yeah, but no one is going to end up in a gulag if we point out that the dude who made a sexist game is, surprisingly enough, sexist. In fact, it's probably good to inform people before they create false impressions of the person and become deeply attached to them for whatever reason. It only...
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