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Should have clarified that, but I was in a hurry. For the sake of my four points above, replace "anything" with "creatures with an Intelligence score greater than 2" (i.e., above animal intelligence). Add also a fifth point: 5.) If the "killer" is a neutral creature with an intelligence...

Assumed the weight is 20 lbs., not 10 - gold is heavy. Also assumed a DC of 18 to Craft the thing. PRICE: 2030 gp Well, let's see. "A one-pound cube of diamond is exactly 2 inches on a side." That's a volume of 8 cubic inches. The international standard size for a ping pong ball is 40 mm...

I hope this won't lock the thread due to a religion reference, but unless I miss my mark, my impression was that the Catholic church had no small amount of influence in those days and that fornication and adultery - which means brothels - were "evil sins" in the dogma of said church. I only...

An astute observation. Also, I may point out something in Darkness' post, which Navar quoted: I find a bit disturbing that to avoid violating the code by wenching, there are sure an awful lotta "ifs." Adding Navar's point that odds are good at least one legitimate authority would have a...

I'm back, because I found another point to make. Which, of course, why we're using modern moral relativism to justify as good acts which, in the pseudo-medieval cultures on which the game is based, were defined as evil by a moral absolutist society. /mild sarcasm Sorry, but here you seem to...

*deleted by me* --The Sigil

For the DRM-curious, try this thread (found using Google-fu) - it's long, but it explains (for the most part) some of the drawbacks to DRM. DRM stands for "Digital Rights Management" but many in the tech field refer to it as "Digital Restrictions Management" because it limits the ways in which...

You think Hal without pants is a good idea? Good heavens, don't encourage him! ;) --The Sigil

shilsen - "a hit, a palpable hit" - great line! I know it's not much, and certainly doesn't "turn the discussion" in any fashion, but it encourages me that this whole discussion has been done civilly and with enough sense of humor that some really deep and important issues have been plumbed and...

Good heavens... a Bluffside calendar... I sure hope I wasn't the only one who saw the thread and thought, "I wonder if it's a swimsuit edition... and if it is, I sure hope Hal will be wearing pants." *shudders* That's just wrong, I know. I need help. --The Sigil

Bingo. :) Doesn't USUALLY exist in the D&D world, anyway. ;) Yes... returning to the example at hand, I think the teachings of Cedric's order are VERY relevant to the discussion, as they shape the "and so forth" - which is why Magnus' comments are so important. Assuming, of course, that...

One final needlepoint directed to no one in particular... SUPPOSITION: Drinking and patronizing brothels are against the teachings of of Cedric's religious order with regard to code of conduct (which I gather from Magnus' comments). PREMISE 1: Tenets/teachings of that order come from the...

Needlepoints... It looked to me - and I hope I'm reading it wrong, because the rest of your post raises some good issues - that you weren't disagreeing with my assessment of his behavior as "dishonorable." If that is the case, he's in violation of the paladin's code ("to act with honor")...

Needle point here... The phrase in the SRD (don't have the PHB handy) is (emphasis mine): "Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the...

Wow. That's sig-worthy material. :) Thanks for the compliment, Henry. --The Sigil

*shrugs* Perhaps I think that Cedric is NOT designed around the conflict between his carnality and the more commonly orthodox doctrine of his religion because there is no question in his own mind. Cedric is not an example of conflict in and of himself; rather, he only creates tension when he...

But, but... what about Traps T(h)ree? Is it never to see the light of day? Not even in PDF? --The Sigil //wonders who will get this joke

I had some inkling that this is where you were headed - the "experienced" religionist who knows precisely which are the "core" values of the faith and which are optional "traditions" added on to that core being amused by a fresh-faced zealot who hasn't had the experience yet to tell the...

That is precisely what I mean. The "perk" of being immune to disease, the "perk" of being able to heal, you know all the "class abilities" that make the paladin a "paladin" and not a "fighter/cleric." Because this character is not a paladin (IMO). I think you're starting backwards... you're...

I have one very simple "acid test" for whether or not a given character concept can be a paladin that has saved me much grief... "Do you (the player) feel the need to justify the character's actions?" Everything about this character - from the write-up to the fact that it was submitted for a...