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And I do believe someone is porting this augustinian view of Good and Evil into 4th ed. even as we speak. Devils and demons are no longer merely spiky, scaly, nasty critters who happen to come from the Planes of LE and CE, respectively. Devils are now CORRUPTED angels. Demons are now CORRUPTED...

As the player of a fire-themed wizard character, I say, INTERESTING ELEMENTAL PLACES AND CRITTERS YAY!

Hmm. A thought: The origin of the modifier, mostly -3 to +5, being the actual ability score in and of itself, is Ars Magica, a roleplaying system that was co-autored by Jonathan Tweet, one of the authors of 3e. I also believe that was the source of the concept skill+ability+die vs. set...

Well, how about a possibility saying "pile on the flesh and blood ...in depictions of SITUATIONS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE IN CONTEXT". CMB or hookerplate in a dungeon? Hell, no! CMB or hookerplate in a gladiatorial arena? Hell, yes! EDIT: Just noticed "when appropriate".

Erm. "...the mind-affecting spells of wizards and clerics will be toned down or removed..." Sure sounds like someone else saying what amounts to that. Fire & radiance or thunder & force on the other hand, can very well be construed as variations on "making things go boom", the very thing that...

Well, it just strikes me as odd that they will be devoting one tradition out of six to something that wizards are supposed to suck at. I mean, if I'm playing a Serpent Eye guy/gal, how massively silly will I feel in a little while when psions join the festivities? That bit about the psionic...

Factoid #1: "Serpent Eye cabalists use orbs to focus powers of enchantment, beguiling, and ensnaring. " Factoid #2: "It is stated, as an example, that there will be a Psi power source later on for psionics. Given this, the mind-affecting spells of wizards and clerics will be toned down or...

Hello I've been lurking for a while, now joining the fun and games...