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That's one of the three examples I gave for that exact situation. And you're assuming "pretty much zero" without knowing the bonuses of the rogue and the DCs of the checks. Whether there are special abilities in play. Advantage from inspiration. And more. Not a very good assumption to make...

Given that for the entirety of my time playing RPGs I've been in games where success wasn't 100%, I never realized that I(or my players when I DM) hadn't ever succeeded at anything. Here I thought success happened far more often than failure. :unsure:

The DM did not drive the PC to go to that location. He did not drive the PC to try and open the lock. The drive was entirely from the player. The DM deciding whether or not someone is there to hear the attempt is the DM REACTING to the player's drive, not driving anything himself.

No it isn't. Those do not model reality. They are closer than D&D, but to really model a real combat, each person would have to be able to assess every other person and adjust what they are going to do in response, which then means that everyone can start adjusting to that. And on and on...

To be a sufficient condition, it must guarantee that what follows WILL happen. Punching someone does not guarantee that you will be tackled. Just because the tackle happens, doesn't mean that it was guaranteed to happen by the punch. If I roll a d6, it is not guaranteed that a 5 will result...

No. The only confusion is yours. I informed you a few posts up what he meant by that, and he liked my post indicating that I was correct. I suggest you follow the chain up until you see it, because this repeated fixation on @pemerton's game is starting to feel disingenuous.

Get off of his game. We aren't talking about his game. We are discussing the difference in playstyles. In yours you don't know. In ours we do.

Wrong post

I've answered this twice now and you'll get to those posts shortly I think. :P

YOU don't know. WE know. If the guard would hear a singing failure, he also hears a singing success. He is in the same spot. The song is at the same volume. His perception is the same for both. We don't have guards who have their ears closed if the roll to sing was a success, or who are...

When @AlViking asks him what happens when.... It's from the perspective of his playstyle. He's really saying, "This wouldn't work for me, because..." He knows that a success wouldn't result in the guard coming in @pemerton's game. The question is more rhetorical to illustrate the differences...

See my above post to @Hussar. What the players do will often cut down or even eliminate checks altogether. If they can describe to me a way that would simply work, they can succeed without any roll. For instance, if the cook is asleep in the kitchen and one of them casts silence, there's no...

It really depends on how the players play the game. If they are trying to be quiet when they enter, a single stealth check will cover the lockpicking, opening the door and entering the kitchen. Those are only all separate rolls if the players are reckless and just do it all without trying to...

First, the combat rules can't really be used as any sort of indication for the use or lack of use of the principle. The combat rules use the stop motion method because if you tried to mimic reality, combat would be a God awful boring mess that takes 10-20 sessions to complete depending on the...

I agree.

Not all of them were INUS conditions, though. Take the example he gave of my being tackled for punching someone in the face. The "punch and witness" will not always result in my being tackled, so the "punch and witness" does not qualify as a sufficient condition.

Do you truly not understand that when someone is talking about the differences between two styles of play that he isn't saying there's one way to handle things or that it's true for all of D&D? Or that it's necessary to do it a specific way. This is what I mean when I say that you read to...

The same sound occurs whether successful or failure. If one alerts the cook, the other should as well. This is one of the major differences between the two styles. Things don't change between success and failure. The cook is there or not no matter what. The sound is loud enough for the cook...

Alright. I'll bite. How often do things go badly with a success? It's not at all the same thing unless the cook would be there regardless of success or failure, and in the same mental state. No. If I had thought about him when I made the town, he would have been there. He wasn't made to...

Whoever you are talking to has me blocked, and now I'm sooooooooo curious about the context of that statement. :ROFLMAO: